she is soo presistent.
the breeder told me last night on the phone. I know the breeder fairly well and seriously in the beginning I do not think she thought too much of giving her my name. but.......on the other hand..she is always ceasing all contact with this lady too. she was wanting to see Max and contacted the breeder as well about max.

so I dunno
no sleep
ticked off
and stressed..

hopefully today is a better day
and will work on the no contact thing
I see a lawyer for another issue on Friday and will see what he has to say.

If the topic of the abuse of max is brought up in the courtcase between her and her ex..not sure that is will matter..since it was 2 years ago. but that is another concern that I have. the law I think is only concerned here in canada with the abuse of the dog in the past six months if charges are to be laid..

what a big big mess
and stress

that you have been kind enough, and by sending her some pics via email and email contact would be ENOUGH! To allow this to continue could be disasterous. Clear definte boundaries need to be set. If she calls again, tell her that she can not continue to call you, you have given her an update on the dog, and no meetings in person will be done, as it would be disruptive to the dog and his routine, (not to mention the chaos and disruptiveness, stress it has brought to you).

Shame on the breeder for telling her where you live!!!! I as a breeder, if I had gotten a pup back and the previous owner contacted me, should have updated them, not involved the new family IMO.

I would tell that psycho there is no way in hell she is going to see the dog that she abused and if she trys to come to my house to see Max the only thing she is going to see is my pretty shiny Lady Smith and Wesson. Done!

and don't feel the guilt!!!

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I can only speculate on this woman's mental state, but it sounds like she may be struggling with some mental illness. Or at the very least some serious issues brought on by stress. At the same time I do feel some empathy for her. I believe she needs to be handled with some compassion. Perhaps ONE supervised meeting with Max. Be clear with her what the terms of visit will be, then that's it. No more drama. If she wants pics via email or whatever after that then fine.

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I personally think you need to set yourself up for the worst possible thing, just in case. I would answer this girls call one more time and tell her you are not comfortable with calling you any longer. he was surrendered back to the breeder, and then rehomed to you. You have nothing to do with her problems and dont want to. he is your dog now and she needs to move on and never call you again, or you will have no choice but to report her to the authorities. -And then do just that. If she calls again- and if she is that unstable she will- file a police complaint for harrassment.

If something happened to you, your other dogs, or to Max there would be some sort of report on file with the police so they would know where to look first. I cant believe the breeder would EVER tell someone who or where she rehomed the dog to. Unreal.

That shouldn't have happened and if it were me I'd have a few choice words for her.

I think you should flat out tell the woman that you're very uncomfortable about her coming to your home and for her not to come.

You can e-mail her a video of him romping in the yard, eating food and playing with toys. That's as good as it gets.

If she comes after you've told her not to you can call the police & have her arrested for trespassing.

Boy...that's all really un-nerving to say the least.

Sue

what a day this has been
she knows the town that I am in
but not my address..
I live in rural route address so I would not be that easy to find

I just got off the phone with the breeder again...
long talk.
she told me to really keep a close watch on Max..
and also no contact with this lady
SHE TRIED to call the breeder today too ...and she was out..

she is very presistent with all this
is she not
oh well long long day...
thanks for your help Erica

And I think it's outrageous that the breeder gave out your address and contact info.

Sending you a big hug during this incredibly stressful time...

wish I had thought of that one myself.
just got off the phone with the breeder here and she is concerned about max too. I will be very careful and keep a close close watch on him
she feels she is very lonely and feels alot of guilt about max...
I dunno..
odd situation to be in

what a sweetheart
pugs are great little dogs

Here's mine!


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Is what I would say, sorry. And I hope she doesnt have your address. It's prob already bad enuf she has your phone #.


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I would not answer the phone or return her calls. I would be very upset with that breeder for giving out your address. I think maybe I'd make her call the woman and tell her to leave you alone.

I would not have admitted to having the dog, but I guess it's too late to say you placed the dog with someone else.

I have the registration paper to prove that Max is mine.
I do not think that the breeder thought it was a big deal at the time.
just talked to the breeder today and her exact words were Watch OUT FOR MAX.
so that tells me something..

MY dogs never leave my side..even the bathroom is not private..lol. so they are really close. I will go outside with them all the time..even though it is fenced for now..to make sure they are all ok. it is not just Max that I worry about.
both the ex and her are unstable..both of them..
so need to watch out for all the dogs..although Max seems to be what she wants.

she is not happy with a video or pic..tried that. she wants to see him running...and playing...she kept saying that today on the phone. she said videos and pictures are one thing but to see them in person is altogether different. she was very insistant about this today.. she kept saying I need to come and see Max.

she had another pug at the same time as she had Max...max brother actually and she gave him to memnonite breeders and has no idea what happened to him. at least Max is here and leads a graet life and is a great dog. HER LOSS...not mine

I see a lawyer this Friday for something else..might just ask him what he thinks about this
great idea
thanks

Try to find paperwork, like letters she sent you about the dog. If not, do you have photos with dates? You can use posts from here to prove that she gave you the dog.

Tell the breeder NOT to give your your address to anyone. That's a dangerous practice. If you do meet with this woman, meet with frinds with you, in a public place. In fact, go there first to make sure she is not going to try to take the dog.

Maybe send her a video, with a current newspaper and the dog running. Maybe show her a vet health check.

Let us know what happens. This sounds messy.

Also, if you can, call an lawyer and find out what your rights are.

Woof!

she thought he was just turning in Max to be rehomed.
it only just started to come out..once he seen the vet the first time
and talked to his previous owner..

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too bad for her....don't give into that crazy woman... Max is so much
better off with you Pat

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hope that you are doing well



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How could anyone hurt that sweet boy? I'm so glad you are taking such great care of him! Also, remember to take care of yourself. These people are obviously not stable.

It sounds like a terrible idea to me for her to come to your house and see Max. Be polite but firm. Tell her Max is fine but she is not to come to your house. Ever.

If she or her ex step one toe on your property, call the police immediately.

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Where was she when Max was getting beaten everyday? Sorry, but I would say emphatically NO! Pat, do NOT let this lady near you, she may not be emotionally or mentally sound. Not at all from the sounds of it.

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looked how scared *****less he was

WATCH MY DOGS LIKE a hawk..
I always do..but will be extremely watchful
do not trust her or her ex

But your first obligation is to the well being of yourself and your dogs.
It is not fair to put this kind of emotional stress on yourself and yourdogs.
This woman allowed her ex to beat up on Max for 6 months., she has some gall asking to see him - how selfish!

I wouldnt even respond to her. Don't answer the phone, don't talk to her...
she'll get the hint.
If she keeps bothering you, call the breeder and ask them to call her and tell her to leave you alone, please.

end of story.




Tiffany and Stella

being polite unfortunately is one of my pitfalls.
I feel for this lady, really I do
but Max is very settled in here now and happy..
he is mine and I am more concerned with his welfare then some lady that I have never met..
I only hear from her very sparingly.......months between
it is the urgency of the call today and the crying on and on that got to me.
Max is fine where he is..he is a great little dog
and besides he is Bella's best friend...

I know the breeder pretty good too. she is really concerned about all my dogs safety not just Max but the rest too.
this girl is not stable..
and this guy is capable of anything..

so NO contact is the best
and if it escalates ...call the authorities

I do not feel that I should have to update a dog that someone obviously did not care about in the first place.

I am really really protective over my dogs
ONE thing about me...is that..

thanks
MY dogs are always close by
esepcially NOW..the bullies are not leaving me alone for second..really really close. they are so intune..

tell her out right that the dog is fine...know you do not want her coming to the house....it would be to up setting for the dog....just tell her to put it behind her and get on with her NEW life...as max has...
Then call the breeder and tell her not to pass your name to anyone....she is to call you and if you want you will call that person...and tell her what is going on....
dont get caught up in the sob story becaues it will never end...
i did it once when i was in dane rescue...the people had to see the dog had to know he was ok....it became a nite mare....untill i put my foot down...and when they called i hung up....it took three months to get them off my back and the dog had all ready been adopted out to some one but we told them nothing....

respond to the email.

Vicky,
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with her contacting you anymore and NO you will not arrange for her to see Max. I can't believe the breeder violated your privacy by giving out your personal information like that. That is scary! Just tell her that you took Max as a favor to the breeder and you had NO intentions of becoming personally involved in any way with his previous owners and you'd appreciate her respecting your privacy from now on.

Cathy
when she first came home

I think that might be too emotional for everyone involved....I think email with photos or video would be sufficient and maybe a phone call