One of the most frequent topics I have noticed on this site is "What to feed". I have been doing a lot of researching the web comparing dog foods. These are the reviews on Purina One and Pedigree from Dog Food Analysis. They update their reviews if there has been a significant change in the composition. The reviews are in line with other sites but I like the way this site is organized and the way they refer to the ingredients in their reviews.


PURINA ONE ADULT LAMB AND RICE: rated one star (a very poor dog food)

Registered: October 2005
Posts: 3953 Review Date: Sun March 5, 2006 Would you recommend the product? No | Price you paid?: Not Indicated | Rating: 0

Pros: None
Cons: Insufficient meat content, by-products, use of low quality grains and fat.


The first ingredient in the food is a named meat product, but since this is lamb inclusive of its water content (about 80%) and this ingredient will weigh only about 20% of its wet weight once water is removed (as it must be to make kibble) it is unlikely that this is the true first ingredient in the food. It is the sole named meat product in the food.


The next ingredient is Brewers rice - a low quality grain and by-product.


Oatmeal is a decent quality grain, but corn is a problematic grain that is difficult for dogs to digest and thought to be the cause of a great many allergy and yeast infection problems. We prefer not to see this used in dog food. In it's gluten form, it is also a waste product for which the AAFCO definition is "the dried residue from corn after the removal of the larger part of the starch and germ, and the separation of the bran by the process employed in the wet milling manufacture of corn starch or syrup, or by enzymatic treatment of the endosperm". Corn appears a second time 6th on the ingredient list.


The next ingredient is by-products, of unidentifiable source. It is impossible to ascertain the quality of by-products and these are usually products that are of such low quality as to be rejected for use in the human food chain, or else are those parts that have so little value that they cannot be used elsewhere in either the human or pet food industries. The AAFCO definition of poultry by-product meal is a meal consisting of the ground, rendered, clean parts of the carcass of slaughtered poultry, such as necks, feet, undeveloped eggs and intestines, exclusive of feathers, except in such amounts as might occur unavoidable in good processing practice.


Beef tallow is a very low quality fat obtained from the tissue of cattle in the commercial process of rendering.


PEDIGREE WITH CHICKEN, RICE AND VEGETABLES: rated 1 star (a very poor dog food)
Registered: October 2005
Posts: 3953 Review Date: Sat March 22, 2008 Would you recommend the product? No | Price you paid?: Not Indicated | Rating: 0

Pros: None
Cons: Inadequate meat content, low quality grains, low quality meat products, byproducts, fat of unidentifiable origin, controversial filler, chemical preservative


The primary ingredient in this food is corn. Corn is a difficult to digest grain of limited value in dog food, and which is also commonly associated with food allergies. Even if this had been a good quality grain, we would still note that grains are an unnatural foodstuff for canines, and that dog food products should be based on meat rather than grain. Corn gluten meal is also low quality. This is defined as that part of the commercial shelled corn that remains after the extraction of the larger portion of the starch, gluten, and term by the processes employed in the wet milling manufacture of corn starch or syrup. In plain English, the remains of corn after most of the nutritious bits have been removed.


Meat and bone meal is an extremely low quality ingredient. It is the rendered product from mammal tissues, including bone, exclusive of blood, hair, hoof, horn, hide trimmings, manure, stomach and rumen contents, except in such amounts as may occur unavoidably in good processing practices. We would have greater confidence in this ingredient as fertilizer than as a dog food ingredient.


The next ingredient is byproducts. It is impossible to ascertain the quality of by-products and these are usually products that are of such low quality as to be rejected for use in the human food chain, or else are those parts that have so little value that they cannot be used elsewhere in either the human or pet food industries. The AAFCO definition of chicken by-product meal is consisting of the ground, rendered, clean parts of the carcass of slaughtered chicken, such as necks, feet, undeveloped eggs and intestines, exclusive of feathers, except in such amounts as might occur unavoidable in good processing practice.


Animal fat is an ingredient of unidentified origin for which it is impossible to determine species, source or quality. Unidentified ingredients are usually very low quality. AAFCO define this asobtained from the tissues of mammals and/or poultry in the commercial processes of rendering or extracting. It consists predominantly of glyceride esters of fatty acids and contains no additions of free fatty acids. If an antioxidant is used, the common name or names must be indicated, followed by the words "used as a preservative".


This product uses chemical preservatives. BHA and BHT are allowed in dog food products but are banned or heavily regulated in human food production due to the belief that they are carcinogenic.


The next ingredient is wheat flour. In dog food products, this is commonly a byproduct (think floorsweepings) of human food production and is a grain fragment we consider primarily filler. Wheat is believed by many to be the leading cause of food allergy problems in dog foods. Wheat mill run is a further grain byproduct.


Beet pulp is a controversial filler. It is a by-product, being dried residue from sugar beets which has been cleaned and extracted in the process of manufacturing sugar. It is a controversial ingredient in dog food, claimed by some manufacturers to be a good source of fibre, and derided by others as an ingredient added to slow down the transition of rancid animal fats and causing stress to kidney and liver in the process. We note that beet pulp is an ingredient that commonly causes problems for dogs, including allergies and ear infections, and prefer not to see it used in dog food. There are less controversial products around if additional fibre is required.


There is no excuse for adding artificial colorings to dog food products.


Overall, this is one of the lowest quality products reviewed on this site. It receives a 1* rating due to the unavailability of anything lower.


















Miriam Olesen
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it mostly waters when she's playing, really smashing her face in her toys. The vet checks it so carefully every time we go, and he said it just a little roll inwards. It doesn't seem to bother her all the time.

Cathy
when she first came home

Is it not irritating and painful to her? Like always having something in her eye (which is the case)???


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i too have bought very expensive food, and cheaper food, my daughter has her bullies on Iams, they are doing well.

She only eats meat, and the stains don't smell yeasty (they used to). She has mild entropian, and her eye runs a lot, especially if she's really running and playing. I used to give her tylosin and it cleared it up, but I am not willing to do that anymore, so I have just accepted that it is what it is. Her face is wet, there is natural bacteria on it, and it turns the tears brown.
I have not tried peroxide paste yet, mainly because she runs and hides whenever she sees me coming with face cleaning stuff, and I HATE dragging her out. As long as it's not hurting her, I'll just leave it.
That may change in the future, though!

Cathy
when she first came home

white rice, and some dogs need it. Hooch gets constipated on grain free.

way expensive food, grain free especially, has too high % of protien. Not good for them. I thnk the Purina One has 26% protien.

Good luck with whatever you go with. I definitely feel your pain. I know I was in shock when I bought a 34 pound bag of the Purina One Lamb and Rice and it was $28.50- and I got it at the grocery store and didnt have to trek to a "specialty" dog food center to get it!! So far mine are doing great on it and Boogers wrinkles are healing, but it has only been a week. It may not be the food, but we havent changed anything else so it sure makes me think that might be it. I figured at that price though, it wouldnt hurt to try it. Lord knows I have tried everything else!! Booger's breeder (and Brian too) has some of the best looking Bullies I have EVER seen- with clean white faces and wrinkles. They dont feed the expensive food so we are giving it a try!!!

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I have 8 so.... I will go and look at the purina one today, as I need more food!!!! What's not to try as you said everything I have tried either too high protein, which I feel gives them seizures, as Spike and Jackson developed fly biting seizure(Spike) and head tremors (Jackson) while on the really expensive food with a high protein. So I try and kepp the protein down to around 20-21%. I will check this out thanks so much!

with eight it's so hard to keep them all on the same thing. The shar-pei are doing great on Blue Buffalo basics, Spike California Natural for anal glands hopefully this will clear them up they have gotten better as he produces more stool on this food. The four others will try lamb and rice today!!

Im in the same boat as you, and I just changed mine over to Purina ONE from the Natural Balance. Purina ONE is what I had my very first Bully on when I first got him, and what Dave (Webbie) was feeding his dogs. I quit chasing the perfect food because the tear stains would get better, then worse again. Everyone told me it was a "time of year" thing and I believe them because it doesnt seem to matter what food they are on- I still have the same problems. I went to grain-free, then kept going up and up in price/quality of food and we were still having the same problems after being on it for a while. Booger has been eatin Purina ONE for a week now and his wrinkles are starting to look a litte better and are lightening up. It might be the food, it might not be.

Brian mentioned feeding his dogs Pedigree and having great results. I went with Purina One over Pedigree because the meat was the first ingredient on the list in the Purina. I am using the Lamb and Rice, but they have a formula for sensative stomachs also,that has Salmon in it. Booger's breeder about had a coronary when I told her what I was paying for dog food, and said she feeds all her Bullies stuff she gets from the feed and seed. She said it's good, decent food and her dogs do very well on it. I did notice that neither Purina, nor Pedigree has beet pulp in it- which is a good thing.

Hope this helps!



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lamb rice and sunflower oil is all that is has..
my boston also had issues with her anal glands as well..
and her skin was a mess
she had large tear stains..
the california natural lamb and rice did a great job..it comes in moist and in kibble.
cleared up all of her issues..
and her fur was silky smooth too

I might give that a try, I: am out of ideas of anything else.

for a boston with all the issues that you are experiencing and it worked awesome for her.
sorry can not be of more help to you.

. . . which is a polite term for animal feces. I'm amazed, and disgusted, any company would put that in pet food.





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of food that works. My family thinks I buy the really expensive food and it doesn't work, so they want me to try the leser foods, but I feel guilty. I want them to have the best I cn afford for them.

I don't really have anything more to lose except a couple of vet trips if needed, so. I think I will try just one of them out for now if it works for one I will try them all, except the shar-pei

It is a great food and half the price of Sophie's! I feed Sophie NB Fish and sweet potato...she never has tear stains and her coat is great. And she has solid poops, no gas, and is a healthy weight. But I am only feeding one NB. If I had to feed two the same food, I would feed Purina Pro Plan Sensitive stomach formula...salmon and rice....it is pretty decent food.

Amy and Sophia