Sooo, we've wanted to Foster through our local Bulldog Rescue for a while, but had so many doubts (too sad, would we get too attached, etc!!!) and finally started ! It's been 4 nights so far, and Sophie's having a rough time with another girl in the house, barking, trying to attack her---it's been exhausssting knowing the right things to do---we can't separate them forever!!! ....Meaty is SO calm and cook around her--thank Goodness!!! This sweet girl has many healing wounds from being in a fight (they don't know the history of that!), one ofher back claws is missing, and the area is pink and healing, and she also lived in an outdoor kennel ( sad!!!) and I wonder, if this was in the winter, HOW did they survive the cold???
She came to the rescue with another 5 doggies, just 5 days ago, so you can imagine it's been a whirlwind for the Rescue People, so I'm waiting on more info----I don't know how long heartworm tests take, and since she is also covered in healing wounds (and some of her lumps seem
like a skin condition---?? We only hope whatever it is doesn't pass onto Meaty and Sophie, but I have to assume to Vet would've said...)
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The vet thinks she's around 7, not sure if she's spayed, and the rescue people think possibly mixed with Boston Terrier from a backyard breeder.....Some of my friends think she might be part Frenchie. Anyhoo, she's SO passive, SO sweet, and just wants to be cuddled. She's been with us 4 nights so far, and doesn't eat very much, but she's drinking water and going potty the normal amount of times, so I'm not TOO worried about her appetite, but if it doesn't improve, obviously I'll take her to the vet.....I'm keeping track of everything...
Foster baby cries when I'm too far away, and it breaks my heart. We haven't left her at the house alone yet, I'm afraid she'll be so traumatized.....
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Sooooo, if anybully wants to give advice, I WELCOME it !!! :-) I have to admit, yesterday, I was SO exhausted from Sophie constantly wanting to attack her, AND, I also didn't like that I barely spent ANY time with Sophie or Meaty, because sweet new girl needs lotsa cuddling. We care about her a lot, but I was thinking people who foster (and some people will take in 2, 3, 4, 5 !!!) like that are AWESOME, but I guess they don't mind that the foster(s) take them away from their regular babies??? .. I really admire the people that do this, just have doubts that *I* can do it....unless Sophie finally calms down and I can spend quality time with her again ...I only mention Sophie 'cuz Meaty's chill with all of this and he's never wanted much attention/ affection.....annnd, when he does, he wants it mostly from Daddy :-)
She LOVES hangin' out by the doggie door, and sleeps on that top step a lot whenever we're outside.....maybe because
she used to live in an outdoor kennel? She also likes to pee and poo on the deck, (sometimes!), so I'm teaching her to
go in the grass....she looks SO SWEET in this pik----her sweet EYES!!!! Awww!!! :-)
Our sweet Archimedes "MEATY" Bones (or as we say...boneSHHH!) ---born 11/28/08---- our first bullllyyyy!!!
And SOPHIE Bubbles *Rapscallion* (LOL!) ---born 4/3/11----our second bulllllyyyy!!!!
**QUESTIONS** about her features....
I forgot to ask before----do y'all know of other breeds that have the cute toofies (TEETH) / underbite that she has? I"m curious, because
to me, the only things that look bulldog-ish are her bottom toofies (when she shows them), and her body KINDA looks like Sophie's....
Hubbs and I are actually concerned that her legs are SO thin, it's hard for her to carry her upper body.? Sophie also has thin
legs and smaller paws than most bulldogs i've seen, so when she was a puppy, I asked her vet about it...he said she just had
more "delicate" features :-) Also, just like Meaty and Sophie, this sweet girl's underbite isn't visible at all times like other
bulldogs----Anyhoo, it doesn't matter in the long run......just curious what her hertiage is....thanks!
Our sweet Archimedes "MEATY" Bones (or as we say...boneSHHH!) ---born 11/28/08---- our first bullllyyyy!!!
And SOPHIE Bubbles *Rapscallion* (LOL!) ---born 4/3/11----our second bulllllyyyy!!!!
She is a bully girl. Definitely may not have grown properly ....
Because of her life situations, but she is a beautiful girl. All bully to me.
Amy and Sophia
I don't see any mix in her...
what a beautiful little girl she is! You guys are AWESOME for taking her in. I can't help with Sophie's aggression issue, but hopefully Lynn King will have some ideas. I only know to watch for the signals Sophie is sending out, maybe the new girl isn't socialized enough to back off a dog who wants to be left alone? If you see any posturing or anything resembling even a glance that might escalate, stop it immediately by removing the girls from each other's space. That's about all I can tell you.
Amy and Sophia
Thank you, Amy....ALL advice is welcome!!! Sophie is
starting to get a little cooler around her...!!!
Our sweet Archimedes "MEATY" Bones (or as we say...boneSHHH!) ---born 11/28/08---- our first bullllyyyy!!!
And SOPHIE Bubbles *Rapscallion* (LOL!) ---born 4/3/11----our second bulllllyyyy!!!!
She is Beautiful
Most of had a rough life. Poor thing. This is great that ya is fostering her. Oh Females. I know Loulo will not let another female move in her house. she is so demanding with me. She wont leave my side. Her and Bubba are the same age and always has been together but I find as she gets older at times she doesnt want to even share me with him. Funny how Loulou Loves on him but at times she is. This is my mommy and not even you Bubba are getting her love that I could have. That when Loulou has to go to her crate. Yes I do make one on one time with both of them.
Karonelaine
Welcome to fostering! :)
I'm so excited and happy that you have opened your home and hearts to a sweet foster baby. It can be challenging and frustrating at times, but it is also so rewarding and heartwarming. The pros most certainly outweigh the cons (IMHO).
I think what you have going on is a mixture of things. Primarily that Sophie is used to being the one and only Queen girl in the home and she is not used to playing second fiddle to anyone and your foster has figured out that if she makes a bit of a scene you will give her attention. It's important that you be sure to balance your time between your new foster and your dogs, jealousy is bound to happen, but making sure that you don't ignore one in favor of the other will be really important. Sophie needs to know that even though she's jealous, you are still going to spend time and love on the foster. Your foster needs to know that even though she doesn't like to be left alone, she will need to adjust to spending time alone. Neither dog gets to set the rules of how, where or with whom you spend your time.
In my rescue we encourage our foster homes to take introductions very slowly, particularly when you (now) know that one of the resident dogs does not like "sharing" with other dogs. I would encourage you (while the temperatures are still decent) to take the girls for short walks together with your husband. It should be dog, person, person, dog (so the dogs are separated by two people). The goal of the walk is for the two of them to co-exist near each other without having any direct interaction with the other. Essentially, you want them to get used to the presence of the other. I would praise them as they walk peacefully and be ready with toys/treats to redirect them if they start to focus on the other.
From there you can slowly work up to small interactions in the yard together (with you watching all the time). Reward Sophie for being good (no stare downs, no attacking, nothing aggressive), remove her for bad behavior. It will take time, and consistent expectations from you (bad behavior by either results in them being separated and removed for a "time out").
Never ever feed them near each other, pick up all toys (toys are a big source of fights), rotate your time between them. Acknowledge good behavior from both, ignore or redirect bad behaviors. I am sure Lynn will probably have more ideas, but those are my suggestions.
Also, it's a learning curve for everyone. Don't expect everyone to get along right away (including yourselves). I've had a lot of fosters, some that I've adored and Winston hated, some that Winston loved and that I wasn't fond of, and some that we've both been neutral towards. It doesn't make you a bad foster home if you don't absolutely fall in love with your foster. And it does not mean you have a bad dog if your dog does not like your foster. Just like people, dogs have different personalities and some mesh better than others.
Shannon and Winston :)
My swimming bully buddy!
..THANK YOU....we didn't know any of this!! LOL!!! ...and
it's so cool that you've done it, too!! Really appreciate all the advice!! Aww, and I ALWAYS love
seeing sweet Winston's photo!!! (( hugs ))
Our sweet Archimedes "MEATY" Bones (or as we say...boneSHHH!) ---born 11/28/08---- our first bullllyyyy!!!
And SOPHIE Bubbles *Rapscallion* (LOL!) ---born 4/3/11----our second bulllllyyyy!!!!
Wow, good for you.
Taking in a foster is always stressful for everyone. Remember, you brought in a roommate that Sophie didn't ask for.
I don't introduce dogs immediately. Only once did I do so, the rescue/foster was coming from someone that had her for several weeks so I knew a lot about her behaviors. Normally, dogs were kept gated apart for at least a week. Introductions were done at the gates, lots of quiet praise, really yummy treats, so that all the dogs got used to another dog in the house without any physical contact.
New girl has to learn to be O.K. being alone. It will help her when its time to place her in her new home. She whines/barks etc., ignore her. Time with her is at your discretion.
Limit the amount of time Sophie and New girl spend together. You want to end each interaction on a good note. So, 5 minutes/ 10 minutes, all is good, separate them. You don't want them to remember their last interaction as ending in a fight. They should remember a nice peaceful walk or quiet time in the living room etc.
When they come together at the gates and both are acting appropriately, quietly praise and give them a treat and walk away. Don't make a big deal out of anything, good or bad. Dogs look for calm/consistent/fair leadership.
Dogs display a huge amount of body language when they are not comfortable. Attacking is usually a last resort. Kind of like they whisper "go away" and when the offender doesn't go away, they "shout" by attacking. Watch Sophie for any staring, stiff body, lip licking, pacing, any of those is a signal that she is telling New girl to disappear. When you see any of these, quietly/calmly "too bad" and separate them.
Thanks for taking on a foster. Rescues always need help. We have had plenty of rescue/shelter dogs here. I don't regret having taken any one of them.
Yes, New girl appears to be all Bulldog, not a well bred one, but a Bulldog.
Good luck, remember to stay calm
Lynn King CPDT-KA
Thank you so much for all of this info!!! ! LOL over
"remember to stay calm"....LOL because yesterday, I was overwhelmed with Sophie wanting to attack her....I had many doubts about
this, but hated to give up. Today is MUCH better! And people teaching me what to do helps A LOT...!! The rescue peeps are wonderful,
but they are SO busy right now with lots of new incoming doggies, they haven't been able to give us as much info as you and
Shannon have---Thank you again! :-)
Our sweet Archimedes "MEATY" Bones (or as we say...boneSHHH!) ---born 11/28/08---- our first bullllyyyy!!!
And SOPHIE Bubbles *Rapscallion* (LOL!) ---born 4/3/11----our second bulllllyyyy!!!!
BEAUTIFUL!!
thank you SO much for being there for her.......there ARE Angels among us!
Mack 'n' Tillie Mae Mack
attitude is altitude!
I should practice what I preach
99% of the time, I can remain very calm. I have had to deal of with all kinds of issues with dogs in classes, private sessions, rescues, shelter dogs etc., For some unknown reason, I change from being a sane/stable human being to a raging nut case when I can't find one of my own dogs. It's actually something that needs to be filmed. LOL
Hope all is going well
Lynn King CPDT-KA
What a sweet, sweet girl!
This is a win, win situation. She can give you all the love she has, and you give her that love right back! She fits right in. It is so wonderful you can offer her a better life right now.