Our beautiful little girl was diagnosed with a deterioration of her spine 2 years ago. It had effected her hind legs. It has now gotten to the point that she can barely walk and has difficulty getting up from a laying position. She's been on increasing doses of Tramadol (narcotic pain med), prednisone, and Gabapentin (used for nerve pain). She no longer wants to play or interact over the past week or so. Her appetite remains wonderful. We are discussing putting her down because, other than eating, her quality of life seems to be very poor. This is the most difficult decision I have ever had to make. Our Bubba was put down 2 years ago. He had cancer. Had difficulty breathing. He refused to eat everything even chicken, steak, etc. Was a horrible decision to have him put down but he had no chance to get better. She Porkie also will not get better but at least she eats well.
Looking for advice. What would you do? She has been seen by 4 vets who all agree with her diagnosis and present treatment. My heart is breaking. I don't want to make the wrong decision for her. She will be 13 years old in March.
Maggie Porkchop and Bubba
I have no good advice for you:-(
But I would try one thing. For whatever reason my girls did better on Carprofen than on Tramadol. I gave Millie, my very ancient German Shepard girl, 100 mg daily, and she went from not being able to get up well to playing again. My Talley girl (a Catahoua), was hit by a car and it destroyed her entire pelvis and both hips. She was first given Tramadol, but I asked for something else that was less expensive, and they gave me Carprofen. For whatever reason it just works better for pain and swelling. I also had/have them all on Cetyl M for joint health.
I dont know if anything will help your darling girl, but it is certainly worth a try! I never give up until I have tried it all, but honestly, if several days on Carprofen doesn't see at least some improvement (I would go at least a week on it to see some change), then that should be your end point. Don't let your vet tell you Tramadol is better, it is merely more expensive. By a lot!
Amy and Sophia
That is VERY encouraging to read.....
amazing especially because her pelvis AND hips were destroyed!! I honestly would have thought there was NO WAY
that could get better, so it's very encouraging to read of a medication that helps THAT much!
Our sweet Archimedes "MEATY" Bones (or as we say...boneSHHH!) ---born 11/28/08---- our first bullllyyyy!!!
And SOPHIE Bubbles *Rapscallion* (LOL!) ---born 4/3/11----our second bulllllyyyy!!!!
I don't think you could make the wrong decision
when you are so motivated by love.
I had to put my beloved Kofi to sleep in April.
It was the hardest and also the most loving thing I ever did.
Keep loving your girl, and trust in your heart.
Sending so much love your way!
SO true what Carol said !!! That is
actually one of the best ways of expressing it that I've seen....SO very true--there is no
WRONG decision !!! But I know this is so hard, of course!! (( hugs ))
Our sweet Archimedes "MEATY" Bones (or as we say...boneSHHH!) ---born 11/28/08---- our first bullllyyyy!!!
And SOPHIE Bubbles *Rapscallion* (LOL!) ---born 4/3/11----our second bulllllyyyy!!!!
Oliver had the same problem...
his spine was in terrible shape and he was on gabapentin for a while. He finally contracted pneumonia at 12 and there was no coming back from that. When he had xrays for his coughing, the vet said it was pneumonia but look at his poor back and it was a mess. We made the decision when he woke us to go outside at 3 am and just laid down in the yard, it was like he was telling us he was done. So hard to make the decision, we kept hoping he would just go on his own, but sometimes we just have to help them.
Difficult decision
A sincere thank you to all that have responded. Tramadol was chosen for pain control because she is also on prednisone. When using a steriod she cannot be on a anti-inflammatory. Yesterday I was planning on her passing. As of this morning she is back to being Porkie. Still has to struggle to stand but can do it without my help. Appetite is back to what has been her norm for the last few months. Brought me her favorite toy to play for a few minutes. I am praying that this isn't the last rally before the final decline. I am a hospice RN and have seen this time after time with my human patients. Perhaps I apply too many human standards to my bully but she is loved more than some humans I know.
Again...thank you for your responses and support.
Maggie Porkchop and Bubba
Wow, your last sentence
about her being more loved than some humans you know is also making the tears start again...!! And now that I know
you're a hospice nurse, I'm glad, because I'm sure it kinda (?) helps, because you're around end-of-life issues all the time?
Hee hee...the reason I'm using so many question marks ? is because I know this may not be true for YOU personally,
plus, our PETS are so different than humans. Since we fell in absolute LOVE with Meaty 8 years ago (he was our
FIRST pet!)----I have come to realize that human death and pet death are so different in how they affect me emotionally, and
I have had conversations with peope to see what they think about this, because the subject is actually fascinating to me (and
SAD, too, of course!)...
.....
I totally understand that you may not feel like reading this "novel" (hee hee), but in case you are reading this far, I just
wanted to share that I have found that since having Meaty, Sophie, and fosters, I react very differently to PET death versus
hooman death. Both are SO sad, of course---but I think it's because animals can't TELL US what they're going through, plus
they're totally dependent on us, which
makes them that much more vulnerable !!!... I notice that when someone I care about loses a hooman in their life versus
a pet, mine (and usually their !!) emotions are different. For example, I lost my precious baby brother 7 years ago--we
were SO close, and I ADORED him, so it was the most painful, heartbreaking thing ever, and of course, I still have
moments of missing him terribly, but it is no longer acutely painful like it was a few years ago. Yet, when we lost one
of our foster bulldogs last year, it was devestating, but we only had him for NINE DAYS !!!!!! Yet, hubbs I STILL get teary-eyed
when we look at his piks and talk about him! THAT is why I am fascinated with this topic----what IS "IT" about animals
that touches our hearts in a different way? .....
...
On a related topic, I've also been a nurse for a long time, (not working currently), and my nurse friends have ALWAYS said that when their
children (hoomans, not fur babies) were in emergencies and/or or sick, etc...they would say "being a nurse goes out
the window----I'm a regular MOM when my children are sick!" ( this is another thing I don't know about, since we
don't have hooman children). ...I was curious if you feel that way, too? I know you said that perhaps you're applying human
standards to your furbabies; so I'm curious if you also curious if being a nurse also "goes out the window" as my friends
used to say? ((( HUGS )))) to you and Porkie !!! I am praying that Professor goes peacefully in his sleep, just as we all do !!!
The vet just started him on Vetprofen for his arthritis, but it's honestly hard to tell if it's helping yet or not.....
Our sweet Archimedes "MEATY" Bones (or as we say...boneSHHH!) ---born 11/28/08---- our first bullllyyyy!!!
And SOPHIE Bubbles *Rapscallion* (LOL!) ---born 4/3/11----our second bulllllyyyy!!!!
You work with Hospice?
My sincerest thanks!
May you be blest for the love you show......
I think it comes down to quality of life.
Sadie was 13 1/2 when we decided to let her go. Her backlegs were giving out and she was in pain. We knew it was time, we could tell she was very tired. Her mind was there and she would still eat, but it became difficult for her to get around. I wish you didn't have to make these tough decisons, but I think you will know when it is time.
awww......So very sorry to hear this....
I have absolutely no experience in this, and to be honest---after reading what you've tried thus far; I thought
it may be time to let her go ---ugh, the tears are starting, and it hurts me to say that to you!!!--- ((( hugs)))) ---- HOWEVER.....once I read what
Amy said, it makes me think she could MAYBE get better with a new med ??! I will keep your sweet
Porky and you in my prayers!!!!!!! ((( hugs )))
P.S....our 12/13** year-old-guy is also headed in that direction, so I also appreciate learning anything I can from all
of you!! SOOO thankful for this site !!! (( Hugs)) to all of you!
**I say 12/13 since our rescue president has no actual date of birth, papers, etc. on him----
Our sweet Archimedes "MEATY" Bones (or as we say...boneSHHH!) ---born 11/28/08---- our first bullllyyyy!!!
And SOPHIE Bubbles *Rapscallion* (LOL!) ---born 4/3/11----our second bulllllyyyy!!!!