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VERY interesting Raw info I found....

as so many of you know, I have switched my dogs to raw, and was happy to see that quite a few others seem to be making the switch right about the same time. It is nice to go through experiences with a group vs going it alone!
The biggest thing that has been bugging me about the whole raw experience is the insistance from so many raw feeders that domestic dogs and wolves are one and the same. They share just about the same mitochondrial DNA, and quote research done by 2 Drs proving this. Well. I did a bit of searching and I did find the Drs research. Which led me to the International Wolf Center. One of the Drs is still doing on-going research for them, all about wolves of course. I wrote them, and asked how THEY felt about the insistance that today's domestic dogs and wolves are the same animal, with precisely the same eating requirements. They wrote me back in a few hours! Here is what they said:
Wolves and domestic dogs ARE NOT THE SAME ANIMAL. They DO have the same origins, but it has been thousands of years since those origins, and today there DOES EXIST many physiological differences between dogs and wolves. There are also many behavioral differences. One of the differenecs they mentioned was receptor cells in the stomach that wolves have and dogs do not. A few other differences I found from the research are:
* wolves have longer muzzles than domestic dogs
* wolves have bigger teeth than domestic dogs
* a wolf's jaw has a biting pressure of 1000 psi
* a German shepherd's is 750 psi, it does not take a rocket scientist to figure out a much smaller dog will have a much smaller bite strength.

SO, while they did agree that a raw diet may be as nutritionally healthy for a domestic dog as a wolf, there are physiological digestive differences between the two and caution needs to be exercised when feeding a domestic dog.

What did I get out of that?

First and foremost the insistance that a prey model diet is appropriate for all canines because they are in fact wolves is FALSE. They are NOT WOLVES. This comes from the International Wolf Center, and the guy that DID the research is still there. I absolutely believe they know what they are talking about.

Second, raw food is as nutritionally superior for domestic dogs as it is for wolves.

Third, the idea that cutting or grinding raw meat and bones is compromising the nutritional value of the raw food, because that does not follow a wild wolf's eating style is FALSE. A dog is not a wolf, there are differences and those differences should be taken into consideration when delivering the food to your dog's stomach.

So, for all the new raw feeders who's head is swimming with all the info out there; and who feel guilty and worried because they have been told that grinding or cutting up your dogs food is BAD for them; who don't want to force their gagging choking dog to eat it anyways because it's the BEST and only way, (because after all your dog is a wolf), grind and cut away! Your dog is NOT a wolf, and even though you KNEW your dog wasn't a wolf, and you KNEW gagging and choking couldn't be the BEST way for your dog to eat, it is always nice to get some clarification from the experts who have been referred to as the basis for the whole dog-is-wolf concept.



Cathy
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Good job!

Good information and research.

CathyandAudrey's picture

just remember

she WILL be missing the wonderful teeth cleaning benefits of chewing on bone, so you will HAVE to find a way to make up for that. I personally think teeth brushing is very important, along with chewing on things like nylabones.

I would like to emphasize that Judy is the one who made me realize that raw feeding does NOT have to be a rigid, one way only diet for all dogs.

I know I am not the only one from BDW who has looked to other sites for raw feeding help and became so discouraged by the dog-is-wolf mantra, and the message that if you do not feed your dog whole, or in very large chunks, animal bodies you are compromising their health and well being. My bulldog is NOT the only bulldog who just can NOT eat that way!

I am also NOT one who ever just takes something as absolute without looking into it as much as possible myself. Especially when something just doesn't seem right, like ALL doemstic dogs with the incredible variety there is amongst them, are in fact wild wolves.

So once again, THANK YOU JUDY, for being a voice of reason!

Cathy
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THANK YOU!

Cathy, you must be a mind reader!
My DH and I were JUST talking about asking the butcher to grind the chicken we buy for Stella from him. And I was all worried that she would be missing something!

Tiffany and Stella

Kel1h2k's picture

I don't feed raw

and NEVER will (LOL just too squeamish) but I have TOTALLY loved reading all your posts and the info on RAW. I know without a doubt that you are doing what's best for Audrey.
Thanks for sharing...

~Kellie and Chloe~
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I found the research by Dr Wayne

that so many say proves conclusively that wolves and dogs are one and the same. It does NOT say that. It does say that domestic dogs came from people domesticating wolves, and interbreeding them with wolves, but it also says this was 14,000 years ago. Very interesting reading though.

Cathy
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raw

You go girl! Amen! I feed the raw Nature's Variety, and Bravo and I feed kibble too. My dogs are happy I buy them raw instead of giving it to them from a store and grinding it or giving it to them to eat straight from the package. I don't have anything against the grinding except that it is messy for me and it takes a lot of time. Thanks for sharing the info on raw..Great job!

Linda

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