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Urate Stones

Diesel is a year and a half old and he's had 2 surgeries this year for urate bladder stones. After the first surgery, the vet put him on Purina N/F. We weren't given clear instructions though, so I still gave him treats, and the stones came back, as in he was completely obstructed and couldn't urinate.

So after the second surgery, the vet gave me allopurinol and he takes 6 of those per day. Well, he's been on it for 30 days and I took him in Saturday so they could recheck his urine. HE STILL HAS STONES AND SEDIMENT IN HIS URINE! The vet basically said she doesn't know what else to do. She was going to research this weekend and call me tomorrow.

The vet said if he is blocked again, they may be able to operate on the bladder once more, but after that for sure, they would have to operate to basically make him a girl....I haven't begun to consider that for him. Has anyone else had any experience with this or have any ideas?

She said that if she can't find more info, she may have to refer him to a specialist.

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Thank you for your message. That's about the point we are at now. The vet said they could do one more bladder stone removal surgery, but it would be the very last one and they don't want to have to do it again if the diet is not preventing anything. His last surgery was in March I think, and in another 2 weeks, he'll go back to have the urine checked again. If they're worse, we'll have to decide which surgery to do I guess.

Re: Urate Stones (kind of long)

Thank you for your message. That's about the point we are at now. The vet said they could do one more bladder stone removal surgery, but it would be the very last one and they don't want to have to do it again if the diet is not preventing anything. His last surgery was in March I think, and in another 2 weeks, he'll go back to have the urine checked again. If they're worse, we'll have to decide which surgery to do I guess.

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Hi, I have not been on this site, but I saw your message and I felt I needed to write to you. I have had English bulldogs for many years and I have only experienced this problem once. I teach school and this problem went on for my Gabriel (4 years old) and a big boy, from 9/08 till 4/09. I use a great bulldog vet here in Florida, but after doing 2 surgeries on Gabbie in six months & a special diet, his body would not quit producing stones. My vet did everything right, including sending out the stones, the same ones your boy has, and testing his liver functions, etc. I took him to the specialists in Orlando & he had stones again just everywhere. My only solution was to let them do a scrotal urostomy (spelling) & reroute his uretha so he has a small female opening now. He would have died if I had not done this. The pain is awful for them trying to pass those stones. You need to know that this is a serious, expensive surgery, $5,000 and you must be prepared for a LOT of bleeding, etc. I am not trying to scare you, but please use someone who knows what they are doing. Believe me, my vet and the specialist were in constant contact and I thank them both for saving Gabe's life. When their bodies produce that many stones that quickly this is the only solution. Diet does not work. Anyway, Gabbie is fine now and back to playing and being happy.

Urate Stones (kind of long)

Hi, I have not been on this site, but I saw your message and I felt I needed to write to you. I have had English bulldogs for many years and I have only experienced this problem once. I teach school and this problem went on for my Gabriel (4 years old) and a big boy, from 9/08 till 4/09. I use a great bulldog vet here in Florida, but after doing 2 surgeries on Gabbie in six months & a special diet, his body would not quit producing stones. My vet did everything right, including sending out the stones, the same ones your boy has, and testing his liver functions, etc. I took him to the specialists in Orlando & he had stones again just everywhere. My only solution was to let them do a scrotal urostomy (spelling) & reroute his uretha so he has a small female opening now. He would have died if I had not done this. The pain is awful for them trying to pass those stones. You need to know that this is a serious, expensive surgery, $5,000 and you must be prepared for a LOT of bleeding, etc. I am not trying to scare you, but please use someone who knows what they are doing. Believe me, my vet and the specialist were in constant contact and I thank them both for saving Gabe's life. When their bodies produce that many stones that quickly this is the only solution. Diet does not work. Anyway, Gabbie is fine now and back to playing and being happy.

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thunderstruckbulldog's picture

are you sure they are urate stones?

Here is a great site to advise you on the different types of stones, treatment, prevention etc. Urates are commonly found in dogs with liver problems so I would definitely have a vet look at the liver.

http://www.lbah.com/canine/urolithiasis.htm#diagnosis

good luck with your boy, the surgery your vet mentioned will help your boy pass the stones and may save his life.
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thunderstruckbulldog's picture

are you sure they are urate stones?

Here is a great site to advise you on the different types of stones, treatment, prevention etc. Urates are commonly found in dogs with liver problems so I would definitely have a vet look at the liver.

http://www.lbah.com/canine/urolithiasis.htm#diagnosis

good luck with your boy, the surgery your vet mentioned will help your boy pass the stones and may save his life.
L

Laura
Thunderstruck Bulldogs
http://sitekreator.com/thunderstruckbulldog/index.html

To those who understand no explanation is needed. To those who don't no explanation is possible.

Others here have had this problem and can give you info

so gather all before you consent to such radical surgery. It can usually be controlled with diet, but it may take a more concerted effort on your part to totally limit his intake to the special diet with NO exceptions. There are also good websites for creation of special diets once you know what type of stones he's creating.

Others here have had this problem and can give you info

so gather all before you consent to such radical surgery. It can usually be controlled with diet, but it may take a more concerted effort on your part to totally limit his intake to the special diet with NO exceptions. There are also good websites for creation of special diets once you know what type of stones he's creating.

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becky's picture

i'm pretty sure i would

go to a specialist before your vet touches him again! good luck!

becky's picture

i'm pretty sure i would

go to a specialist before your vet touches him again! good luck!

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