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Small trachea.........Brachycephalic Syndrome prior post...

I'm just going to do a simple cut and paste of my follow up with Lola's owner.


"She has an extremely narrow trachea...small than a cats. We lucked up to have a vet from University of Tennessee in town who looked at it as well. Prognosis without surgery is not good and they really couldn't guarantee that surgery would help. I can't afford it so I am not sure what to do. She is so sweet and I love her to pieces...waiting on vet to call me back after she reviews the x-rays again with a specialist."


Lola isn't even 3 months yet.....and I still have her even smaller brother here. He's outside playing with his mom and my 2 oldest son's now. How big should a bully's trach be this young? Her brother isn't having any problems...should I be concerned about him?

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1 months shy of 4yrs old

thanks,

Vicky,
Bosco, Bella, Breve' & Holly


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So sorry for your loss...

How old

was she when she passed? I'm SOOO sorry for your loss!

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Blush had a trachea the size of a spegetti noodle

when she was little, she had pneumonia and struggled to breathe. When i had her spayed at 5 months her trachea was a size 9.

Her heart gave out last Friday and she passed away. She had complications from pneumonia at 3weeks.

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I think I just need to contact these....

vets myself and find out what is going on. She has only been gone for 2 weeks this Sunday and since she was the only female and the same size as my small male my husband and I would feed her alone, first. So she ate and drank first, before we even pulled another puppy out to be fed......and then it was the boy that is the same size as her. She'd romp and play while the others ate and sometimes go back and fight for seconds even though her abdomen was extended like she was carrying yorkies.....lol. Neither of them have vomited while in my care, the delivering vet checked their palates immediatley after birth and made the comment and I quote "good, good, good, good, and good....their palates are perfect. Elongated soft palates are common in bulldog's so I always check that before I show you how to tube feed." He actually tubed Lola to show us how to do it, and said ONLY to tube them if mom rejected them, or if they wouldn't eat and weren't gaining weight. I only had to tube my small male once, because he wasn't latching good. Lola was the FIRST to latch ironically. NEVER vomitted, and panted normally....nothing raspy and irregular, which from what I understand if the first sign of RESP. problems.

The only option is to contact these vets. This is VERY serious to me and if this is something from my lines, I'm going to get to the bottom of it. 5 years of work went into this litter to insure no health problems would be manifested in my puppies. I have literally been in tears over this.

TMK there is NO surgery to fix a small trachea.

The vets may be talking about doing a palate trim to widen area for air intake, possibly widening nares, repair of some sort for hiatal hernia...but I don't know of anything that will repair an undersized trachea. Owner needs to talk more with vets, have them draw or show some diagrams of what is actually involved and what options are offered, ask what the percentage of success of this (these) procedures is with The Bulldog and what % of completions and success this particular vet has had doing it?? There's a whole lotta info missing from this situation to offer critical advice IMHO.

While the trachea will develop at the same rate the dog's internal organs mature (few parts of the body remain the same, such as eyeballs) but any current inflammation from a URI could interfere with evaluations now. If I owned the sibling to this pup I would have at least x-rays done for comparison...they are non-invasive and would provide support for any surgical decisions as well as provide the owner of the 2nd sibling some background & comparative info should this pup later develop a URI. Its not "looking for trouble" but rather IMO looking for ways to avoid trouble in the future. happy.gif

I was told Junior had a small trach when he was 6 mos.

when I had him neutered at 14 mos, vet said trach was normal size. (First vet could be wrong or it grew) I've never heard of any surgery to repair a small trach.

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sorry but what surgery>>>>

what surgery do they want to do???? i find that a little suspect???

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i would.....

x ray the male....so you know...you have top people looking at your x ray they know what their talking about.....
but i am surprised about it not being good???? why can she not swallow....vomiting food???
wilson has a small trechea and the only thing i worry about is high humity,and aspiration of water or food....
yes the system works harder to get air in...thus making the heart work harder... and that makes it harder for the blood to circulate.....no your dog wont live till its 10 yo...but 6 or 7 y0....
so what else is going on....

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Do you have a vet you trust

and has good bulldog knowledge? Maybe your vet could check Lola, and see what he/she says about her trachea.

Cathy
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