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Skin Issues

Hello. I am new to this board but not to Bullies. We have 3 rescues. Austin a hyper 7 year old male, Memphis a 6 year old Queen of the house and our Baby Belle, she is a 3 year old female.

Our issues are with Belle and her skin. She looses her fur and her skin is blotchy pink in some places but mostly black and gray. She itches at herself so bad at some times that she will bleed and have tear off her top layer of skin.

We did a Allergy test and the only highly allergic thing was mold. Mange demodox was negitive, and another test they did was negative. She was getting better with a shotgun approach of Ketconazal and Batril then she went into heat and everything went down hill, and nothing is working. So i thought that I would try here.

If you want to see pictures of her check out this link, I am hoping that we can figure out something. I hate seeing her in such bad shape!

http://thelichnerswebsite.shutterfly.com/pictures/379

Thanks!!!

Thanks

Mark

Update

Ok, so Bell went to the vet the other day and here is where we stand.

3rd Scrape is negative for demodox. Advised of Skin Biopsy, but since she will have to be sedated, they will do that with the spay and that will only be done once we get the skin under control!

So we are back to the orgional treatment that we were following with her with one change.

Cephalexin twice daily
Ketaconazole once daily
Gentocin topically as needed

The only change was from heart guard oral heartworm to Revolution a topical heartowrm and flea/tick. This has a effect on sarcoptic mange, so were were doing a Just in case.

Thanks for all the help and suggestions from everyone!!!!!! Will keep you updated!!!

Thanks

Mark

WOW

I am thrilled to see that he is doing better. I showed my wife the original and 1 year picture and it was hard to believe that they were the same dog!!!

11 apt with the vet and we are going to push the demodox. Will advise on the outcome!!!

Thanks for the help!!

Thanks

Mark

TamsenNJosie Louise's picture

Holy Crap

Josie never looked that bad, but close, but I sure would like to know what she did for his recover, thanks so much for the link. J & T

TamsenNJosie Louise's picture

Holy Crap

Josie never looked that bad, but close, but I sure would like to know what she did for his recover, thanks so much for the link. J & T

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Moses blog

Maybe this will help, I didn't read it through but Moses had a bad skin condition when she took him in.
http://babymoses.blogspot.com/2007/08/got-call-tonight-from-local-shelter.html





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Moses blog

Maybe this will help, I didn't read it through but Moses had a bad skin condition when she took him in.
http://babymoses.blogspot.com/2007/08/got-call-tonight-from-local-shelter.html





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Thanks

We are going to have her checked again, it seams that this is the most likely cause. Since she was doing alot better before she went into heat, and she was on her heart worm then. So that fits also. We may take her to another vet just for the test, since I do not want my vet to think we do not believe him. He is great and we like him alot.

I would be afraid to start a treatment like that with out a vet knowledge. We would need to improve her protein level with this treatment correct?

Thanks for all the help!!

Thanks

Mark

Thanks

We are going to have her checked again, it seams that this is the most likely cause. Since she was doing alot better before she went into heat, and she was on her heart worm then. So that fits also. We may take her to another vet just for the test, since I do not want my vet to think we do not believe him. He is great and we like him alot.

I would be afraid to start a treatment like that with out a vet knowledge. We would need to improve her protein level with this treatment correct?

Thanks for all the help!!

Thanks

Mark

Hi Mark.........

We have had dogs with skin issues like this in rescue several times......unfortunatley sad.gif I would have the dog re-checked for Demodex like the others have suggested. I had a foster boy whose skin was black and leathery (he had demodex, yeast and pyderma). Do a search on virgin coconut oil. I found this very helpful and soothing on his skin. You can find it at many health food stores, sometimes even Wal-Mart if you are lucky! Hope your boy is feeling better soon happy.gif

Myspace

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http://norcalbulldogrescue.org

Hi Mark.........

We have had dogs with skin issues like this in rescue several times......unfortunatley sad.gif I would have the dog re-checked for Demodex like the others have suggested. I had a foster boy whose skin was black and leathery (he had demodex, yeast and pyderma). Do a search on virgin coconut oil. I found this very helpful and soothing on his skin. You can find it at many health food stores, sometimes even Wal-Mart if you are lucky! Hope your boy is feeling better soon happy.gif

Myspace

bT*xJmx*PTEyMzQyMzgyNjIzMjgmcHQ9MTIzNDIzODI2OTcwMyZwPTIxODU4MSZkPSZnPTEmdD*mbz1hZDdlMjQyYTk5ZjA*NmVlYWU5MzdlYmIwMWFmZDgyNQ==.gif
http://norcalbulldogrescue.org

my guy got a few clean scrapes before they PLUCKED

and found DEMO. And checked more than one site.

doesn't matter, you have him on the ivermectin so that should help clear it up. I have seen this before.

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A 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organization

my guy got a few clean scrapes before they PLUCKED

and found DEMO. And checked more than one site.

doesn't matter, you have him on the ivermectin so that should help clear it up. I have seen this before.

[linked image]
MidAtlantic Bulldog Rescue | www.midatlanticbulldogrescue.com
A 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organization

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hi mark

Josie does have some very black skin, but it has started to go away. you can google ivermectin for dogs and get a huge amount of info. i feed grain free as well. i went with the natural balance venison and sweet potato, josie doesn't poop as much with the fish and SP and she has no gas. she was a rescue girlie as well, i will let you know how she progresses if you like. J & T

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hi mark

Josie does have some very black skin, but it has started to go away. you can google ivermectin for dogs and get a huge amount of info. i feed grain free as well. i went with the natural balance venison and sweet potato, josie doesn't poop as much with the fish and SP and she has no gas. she was a rescue girlie as well, i will let you know how she progresses if you like. J & T

Answers and thanks!!

Wow the speed of responses is wonderful thanks!!!!

I am going to try to answer all of the posts at once.

Josie, it looks like the same thing as you have, except Bells skin is black and gray. It just may be pigmentation, but I have noticed in the past she would scratch it off and healthy skin would appear.

I am not aware of the invermictin approach. She is on Call of the Wild, this is a grain free food, 25% protein or on Acana all fish formulas. Fat free yogurt for dinner since day 1 for all the dogs. More protein hu? Raw diet maybe? My other bullies were on a Honest Kitchen Force and Raw meat for a long time.

Anne, Belle does have a similar background she is a foster failure. She was kept in the Basement by her older owner because she and his old bulldog did not get along.

Rae, it is nice to see you a fellow rescue we work with and adopted all of ours from CEBR in Chicago. We have done 2 demadox scrape tests and both have been negative. Would a pluck test give any different results, since it appears to be all over more then the lower side of her??

Deb, I am not sure about Staph or yeast infection. She was getting a bath with maleseb 2-3x per week. But we are trying a new product Zymox, a enzymatic shampoo.

If some one can point me in the right direction to reach Lisa with Moses, I would appreciate it.

Again Thank you with all the help and follow up's I will be looking forward to any ideas that you may have.





Thanks

Mark

Answers and thanks!!

Wow the speed of responses is wonderful thanks!!!!

I am going to try to answer all of the posts at once.

Josie, it looks like the same thing as you have, except Bells skin is black and gray. It just may be pigmentation, but I have noticed in the past she would scratch it off and healthy skin would appear.

I am not aware of the invermictin approach. She is on Call of the Wild, this is a grain free food, 25% protein or on Acana all fish formulas. Fat free yogurt for dinner since day 1 for all the dogs. More protein hu? Raw diet maybe? My other bullies were on a Honest Kitchen Force and Raw meat for a long time.

Anne, Belle does have a similar background she is a foster failure. She was kept in the Basement by her older owner because she and his old bulldog did not get along.

Rae, it is nice to see you a fellow rescue we work with and adopted all of ours from CEBR in Chicago. We have done 2 demadox scrape tests and both have been negative. Would a pluck test give any different results, since it appears to be all over more then the lower side of her??

Deb, I am not sure about Staph or yeast infection. She was getting a bath with maleseb 2-3x per week. But we are trying a new product Zymox, a enzymatic shampoo.

If some one can point me in the right direction to reach Lisa with Moses, I would appreciate it.

Again Thank you with all the help and follow up's I will be looking forward to any ideas that you may have.





Thanks

Mark

Staph or Yeast infection

Did they test for staph and yeast infections?

Staph or Yeast infection

Did they test for staph and yeast infections?

TamsenNJosie Louise's picture

we got a clean scrape

back in september, just trying to get past the leftovers. I sure hope the ivermectin/protein works. thanks for looking. J & T

TamsenNJosie Louise's picture

we got a clean scrape

back in september, just trying to get past the leftovers. I sure hope the ivermectin/protein works. thanks for looking. J & T

ask them to do a pluck test for DEMODEX...



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A 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organization

ask them to do a pluck test for DEMODEX...



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A 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organization

TamsenNJosie Louise's picture

oh poor little pumpkin

Josie has got out ahead of hers a little......here are some pics

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TamsenNJosie Louise's picture

oh poor little pumpkin

Josie has got out ahead of hers a little......here are some pics

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Kathy Chester Newman and Jessa's picture

What are you feeding her?

Grain free foods are the best for skin problems.

Kathy, Ollie and Chester

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What are you feeding her?

Grain free foods are the best for skin problems.

Kathy, Ollie and Chester

Gosh

she looks awful, poor baby. My new rescue bulldog also has skin issues, they don't look the same as yours. He is going to the vet tomorrow so I will post what I learn. I have already tried tons of stuff, it is so hard! Here are some pics of him the first night he was at my house. He is almost 2, had been living in a garage, was diagnosed with demodectic mange, allergies (to what I don't know), ear infections, toe cysts, he stinks and there is something wrong with his feet. etc. He is so sweet!!! Have you looked into yeast? Does she smell?

http://picasaweb.google.com/derail1951/Bobo2?authkey=Gv1sRgCMzqx_yXmJP5LQ#



Gosh

she looks awful, poor baby. My new rescue bulldog also has skin issues, they don't look the same as yours. He is going to the vet tomorrow so I will post what I learn. I have already tried tons of stuff, it is so hard! Here are some pics of him the first night he was at my house. He is almost 2, had been living in a garage, was diagnosed with demodectic mange, allergies (to what I don't know), ear infections, toe cysts, he stinks and there is something wrong with his feet. etc. He is so sweet!!! Have you looked into yeast? Does she smell?

http://picasaweb.google.com/derail1951/Bobo2?authkey=Gv1sRgCMzqx_yXmJP5LQ#



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You need to speak to Lisa with Moses

she went through something that looked like that with Moses. Hopefully she or someone she knows will see this. Poor baby, I hope you figure it out.

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You need to speak to Lisa with Moses

she went through something that looked like that with Moses. Hopefully she or someone she knows will see this. Poor baby, I hope you figure it out.

Hug your bulldog every day.
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TamsenNJosie Louise's picture

Josie too

She has the same thing and her haunches are red and weepy at times. i have decided to use the ivermectin approach and more protein in her diet. I just started yesterday so I have a ways to go to see how she reacts. she gets kibble, green beens, liver, and plain yogurt as her 2 meals a day. Let me know if you have another approach, I woudl be interested. J & T

TamsenNJosie Louise's picture

Josie too

She has the same thing and her haunches are red and weepy at times. i have decided to use the ivermectin approach and more protein in her diet. I just started yesterday so I have a ways to go to see how she reacts. she gets kibble, green beens, liver, and plain yogurt as her 2 meals a day. Let me know if you have another approach, I woudl be interested. J & T

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