but it should resolve within a few days, one week at the most. Curious...did you ask the vet (or tech) to record 'what size tube' the used for his anesthesia? That's a good piece of reference info to keep.

but it should resolve within a few days, one week at the most. Curious...did you ask the vet (or tech) to record 'what size tube' the used for his anesthesia? That's a good piece of reference info to keep.

the airway can be irritated from the tube, I know that from personal experience. Ollie was snoring a little louder after his surgery two weeks ago too. It should resolve in a few days.

Kathy, Ollie and Chester

the airway can be irritated from the tube, I know that from personal experience. Ollie was snoring a little louder after his surgery two weeks ago too. It should resolve in a few days.

Kathy, Ollie and Chester

...for the good advice (yet again!)


I thought the growing pretty much stops at about a year, didn't realize it went on until 2.

Obviously all we can do is keep an eye, and hope everything continues to be as good as it is now.

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...for the good advice (yet again!)


I thought the growing pretty much stops at about a year, didn't realize it went on until 2.

Obviously all we can do is keep an eye, and hope everything continues to be as good as it is now.

Thx again









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that the snoring is the vibration of those saccules at the top of the trachea/back of the throat causing the little bit louder snoring...something about when her head is lying down and the angle of the air intake. If she's having no problems with her day-to-day activities, as you have certainly confirmed with her love of play and activities, then I wouldn't have concerns. I would, however, continue to check her semi-annually as she matures for the first 1-2yrs, to monitor the situation. She should reach full adult head structure by age 2 and after that its just checking at the annual vet visit.

that the snoring is the vibration of those saccules at the top of the trachea/back of the throat causing the little bit louder snoring...something about when her head is lying down and the angle of the air intake. If she's having no problems with her day-to-day activities, as you have certainly confirmed with her love of play and activities, then I wouldn't have concerns. I would, however, continue to check her semi-annually as she matures for the first 1-2yrs, to monitor the situation. She should reach full adult head structure by age 2 and after that its just checking at the annual vet visit.

Then thing is, she breathes very well. She never mouth breathes, never breathes noisily, tolerates heat unbelievably well, rarely pants, and is very very active. There's a young havanese in the house, and they play together hard. Today my wife and I took Roxy for a 2 mile walk. She trotted by our side the whole time, never slowed up, and never panted. The only thing that has ever given me any concern whatsoever was her apneic episodes, but even these have gotten fewer and farther between. The snoring is louder now than it was before the surgery, but it's still not at a ridiculous level.

I remember you telling me about the tube sizes prior to her surgery, so I know that 5.5 is not good. But in your experience does that alone bode poorly for her future breathing, in spite of how good it is now?

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Then thing is, she breathes very well. She never mouth breathes, never breathes noisily, tolerates heat unbelievably well, rarely pants, and is very very active. There's a young havanese in the house, and they play together hard. Today my wife and I took Roxy for a 2 mile walk. She trotted by our side the whole time, never slowed up, and never panted. The only thing that has ever given me any concern whatsoever was her apneic episodes, but even these have gotten fewer and farther between. The snoring is louder now than it was before the surgery, but it's still not at a ridiculous level.

I remember you telling me about the tube sizes prior to her surgery, so I know that 5.5 is not good. But in your experience does that alone bode poorly for her future breathing, in spite of how good it is now?

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A tube size of 5.5 is not particularly good...and a 6 or 6.5 would satisfy me a bit more if we're talking about an adult bulldog. Most bulldogs run between 7-8, with an occasional 9. The saccules you referred to can become "stretched" with the stress of breathing accompanied by an elongated soft palate or a narrow trachea (combining to narrow the airway into the lungs) so your vet's suggestion that you monitor her growth and re-evaluate, perhaps in another 6mos, is a good idea. The cooler weather may also ease her breathing. As to the surgery, it should not have interferred with the saccules (referred to by some as tonsils altho they are not the same thing).

A tube size of 5.5 is not particularly good...and a 6 or 6.5 would satisfy me a bit more if we're talking about an adult bulldog. Most bulldogs run between 7-8, with an occasional 9. The saccules you referred to can become "stretched" with the stress of breathing accompanied by an elongated soft palate or a narrow trachea (combining to narrow the airway into the lungs) so your vet's suggestion that you monitor her growth and re-evaluate, perhaps in another 6mos, is a good idea. The cooler weather may also ease her breathing. As to the surgery, it should not have interferred with the saccules (referred to by some as tonsils altho they are not the same thing).

...I realized after that I should have been a bit more specific in that original post.

For the first few days after the surgery the snoring was louder, and it did not surprise me. Like you said, it seems reasonable that there would be irritation from the tube.

However, it will be two weeks tomorrow, with no signs of letup. So I should have asked, is it possible that there will be a LONG TERM increase in snoring volume from intubation, or is it just coincidence and she is at the age where she is "growing into her snore"?

Doc said he used a 5 and a half tube, but said he could have easily used one size larger. So that's not great, but not terrible either, correct?

He also said that he saw the beginning of the little "sacs"(? i forget the term he used) at the esophogeal opening that all dogs have but that can tend to grow inward on bullies (sorry if I butchered that explanation). Also that the soft palate is not a problem now, but may require attention later. So his verdict was wait and see, which sounds good to me.

Your thoughts?

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...I realized after that I should have been a bit more specific in that original post.

For the first few days after the surgery the snoring was louder, and it did not surprise me. Like you said, it seems reasonable that there would be irritation from the tube.

However, it will be two weeks tomorrow, with no signs of letup. So I should have asked, is it possible that there will be a LONG TERM increase in snoring volume from intubation, or is it just coincidence and she is at the age where she is "growing into her snore"?

Doc said he used a 5 and a half tube, but said he could have easily used one size larger. So that's not great, but not terrible either, correct?

He also said that he saw the beginning of the little "sacs"(? i forget the term he used) at the esophogeal opening that all dogs have but that can tend to grow inward on bullies (sorry if I butchered that explanation). Also that the soft palate is not a problem now, but may require attention later. So his verdict was wait and see, which sounds good to me.

Your thoughts?

Thx for your help








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and while most bullies reach their adult height by about 10mos old, they can continue to fill in, both body and skull until two, and in few lines, even a bit longer. Knowing the maturity schedule of the dam and sire of your pup helps, but if asked about this breed in general, most old-timers will tell you to give the dog until age two for complete development.

and while most bullies reach their adult height by about 10mos old, they can continue to fill in, both body and skull until two, and in few lines, even a bit longer. Knowing the maturity schedule of the dam and sire of your pup helps, but if asked about this breed in general, most old-timers will tell you to give the dog until age two for complete development.