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help with aspiration pneumonia symptoms needed

eliza vomited this morning and collapsed. the "before breakfast" vomiting is not atypical, but the collapse is, and it scared the crap out of me. i'm petrified of either of these guys aspirating when that happens, and even more so now that she collapsed during the episode. i got her up and she continued to hack and retch for a long time... much longer than usual.

we're going to monitor her breathing for the next few days. i know i should look for shortness of breath, labored breathing, lots of coughing and lethargy.

my question is, how do you tell if a bulldog, who is a noisy breather anyway, has labored breathing/shortness of breath???? she's a huge snorer and creator of various noises, so much so that its a running joke about how many are in her repetoire. happy.gif

does anyone have any input?

thanks



stacibix,ron,farcus&eliza

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see above ;) but i have thought of asking for a re-evaluation...

so i'll put that on the list the next time we see dr. shaw...

stacibix,ron,farcus&eliza

Exactly...that is the first thing that needs to be considered...

do you have a vet who is familiar with the condition of elongated palate on a bulldog, and have you had this bulldog evaluated for this? Although many vets say they want the dog sedated to perform this evaluation, some very bulldog-experienced vets are able to do this without sedation, and they may be able to perform the corrective surgery as well. This would be in the neighborhood of a $500 surgical procedure, perhaps more or a bit less depending on where you live and whether the surgery was done by a general vet or a surgical specialist (the latter charge more but may be your only viable option) and if the dog is truly having difficulty on any given day (not collapsing but breathing very loud/strained) then the saccules are probably enlarged at this point and need to be removed also...which will add to the "opening" of the air pathway and should bring about the greater benefit. Very cold weather as well as very hot/humid weather can be difficult for a bulldog with palate/breathing issues so if you are in a very cold winter location, you need to limit outside time much as you would in July or August. happy.gif

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she had palate surgery years ago...

her tongue used to turn blueish when she breathed heavily! both of these guys do get acid reflux and that is part of the problem now, b/c we recently switched to raw. i think the portions are so much smaller than they used to be. we're going to start adding some green beans to her evening meal (she tends to put a little junk in her trunk happy.gif )

she has seemed comfortable and fine since breakfast, and i'm not hearing anything out of the ordinary. i just wanted to be prepared.

thanks for the response!

stacibix,ron,farcus&eliza

seems she had a very elongated palate and may

need surgery to help her breathe. to tell if a dog has shortness of breath, it's like she is trying to gulp in air really fast like she is panting really fast. My frenchie boy was a real loud snorer too and he seems normal, but he starting getting the reflux issues and got his esophagus inflamed the vet said when he was gulping in air to breath, he somehow created a hiatal hernia and stomach acid goes up there and then causes him to have his reflux. anyway, his palatate was shortened and both saccules removed. he is not snoring as loud as before and he seems to be breathing better.

If the palate was resected

Before she reached her full growth, it may need to be done, again.
When Q had aspiration pneumonia, he deteriorated fairly quickly (within 4-6 hours). You can sometimes feel the secretions rattling around in the lungs by placing your hand on the side of the chest. This won't be present with just upper airway noise (like what you would hear with the palate or nares).

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