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dermadex..opinions

have you heard of this..
mild case of dermadex going away on its own?
I got charlies bald patches scrapped..yup, mild case of dermadex..
Vet suggested to wait it out, it may go away by itself..
the other 2 options are a dip..it sounded very toxic.. need to wear gloves.. person dipping cannot be on prozac or any other similar meds.. sounded scary..esp for a pup with a very mild case.
Another option, which I ordered.. was advantage drops.. you know the kind one gives for flea treatments..between shoulder blade..
Vet says he had a 65% cure rate with that.. doesn't ound too great, but I am not ready for the dip which is a 85% cure rate..
What should I do??
Charlie is in his first show in 2 weeks..should I pull him?
The bald patches are not noticeable... the vet needed me to point them out

Sue

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Re: Advantage Multi.......

this must be what the vet ordered.. I hope it works..

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Re: Advantage Multi.......

this must be what the vet ordered.. I hope it works..

Advantage Multi.......

We have had our pets and show dogs pop up with the little demo patches. smaller than a dime. Our vet, a very knowledgable bulldog vet, put them on Advantage Multi. While there was no written verification, by vetmed trials, that it irradicated them, it does a good job of snuffing them out. While the mites are killed in two or three days, the missing hair does take time to grow back. A monthly application of the drops between the shoulderblades will keep them off. After the dog is 2 years old, their immune system will get rid of the mites. The diffence between K9 Advantage Multi, and K9 Advantix is, that Multi, the one that kills the mites, requires a vets Rx.


Perserverance isn't a long race.
It's a series of short races,
ran one after the other.

-In memory of Casper

Advantage Multi.......

We have had our pets and show dogs pop up with the little demo patches. smaller than a dime. Our vet, a very knowledgable bulldog vet, put them on Advantage Multi. While there was no written verification, by vetmed trials, that it irradicated them, it does a good job of snuffing them out. While the mites are killed in two or three days, the missing hair does take time to grow back. A monthly application of the drops between the shoulderblades will keep them off. After the dog is 2 years old, their immune system will get rid of the mites. The diffence between K9 Advantage Multi, and K9 Advantix is, that Multi, the one that kills the mites, requires a vets Rx.


Perserverance isn't a long race.
It's a series of short races,
ran one after the other.

-In memory of Casper

I've used the Ivermectin with very good results.

It takes about 2 months of treatment and 2 clean skin scrapings.

It never came back.

Sue

I've used the Ivermectin with very good results.

It takes about 2 months of treatment and 2 clean skin scrapings.

It never came back.

Sue

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Re: speaking just from a health standpoint, rather than show con

Thanks.. the vet wasn't overly concerned at this point.. and the baldness doesn't bother charlie.. not itchy or red.. it just bugs me!
I will watch it..can't help it..I go over him daily to make sure nothing is wrong..I am just very paranoid and somewhat anxious.

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Re: speaking just from a health standpoint, rather than show con

Thanks.. the vet wasn't overly concerned at this point.. and the baldness doesn't bother charlie.. not itchy or red.. it just bugs me!
I will watch it..can't help it..I go over him daily to make sure nothing is wrong..I am just very paranoid and somewhat anxious.

speaking just from a health standpoint, rather than show concern

and I'm not intimating that you have show concerns OVER health concerns, but I don't know how much weight a judge would put on a patchy coat. Still, we're very familiar with Demodex Mange here. Its not uncommon for youngsters since their immune systems are stressed just from rapid growth, teething, and training perhaps. While its true that some dogs recover from mange if left untreated by the poisons that kill the mites (such as flea preps or dips) it can also stress the dog further and change a small problem into a bigger one, that may take months to overcome rather than weeks so I caution you to keep a close eye on him. You can help your dog by boosting his immune system and if you are not already giving vitamin supplements, please consider doing that now. In addition, giving some fish oil/omega 3 products should help his coat keep lustre and softness.

The AVMA recommended treatment for Demodex Mange is the Mitaban (amitraz)dips and yes they are highly toxic but safe when used properly...and very effective. I've used them several times on rescue bullies with moderate to severe mange, as long as there aren't a lot of open skin sores at the same time. In those cases, our vet would start the dog on oral Ivermectin along with antibiotics to try to heal the sores before using the dips; concerns about too much absorption of the medication thru open wounds.

There are newer options in addition to the dips, and oral Ivermectin (bitter but good long-term solution)and that is topical meds like Promeris and Advantage, and in a mild case as it would seem you are seeing, this may be the way to proceed. Talk with your vet if condition doesn't improve in couple weeks, or certainly sooner if bald spots increase size/location.

speaking just from a health standpoint, rather than show concern

and I'm not intimating that you have show concerns OVER health concerns, but I don't know how much weight a judge would put on a patchy coat. Still, we're very familiar with Demodex Mange here. Its not uncommon for youngsters since their immune systems are stressed just from rapid growth, teething, and training perhaps. While its true that some dogs recover from mange if left untreated by the poisons that kill the mites (such as flea preps or dips) it can also stress the dog further and change a small problem into a bigger one, that may take months to overcome rather than weeks so I caution you to keep a close eye on him. You can help your dog by boosting his immune system and if you are not already giving vitamin supplements, please consider doing that now. In addition, giving some fish oil/omega 3 products should help his coat keep lustre and softness.

The AVMA recommended treatment for Demodex Mange is the Mitaban (amitraz)dips and yes they are highly toxic but safe when used properly...and very effective. I've used them several times on rescue bullies with moderate to severe mange, as long as there aren't a lot of open skin sores at the same time. In those cases, our vet would start the dog on oral Ivermectin along with antibiotics to try to heal the sores before using the dips; concerns about too much absorption of the medication thru open wounds.

There are newer options in addition to the dips, and oral Ivermectin (bitter but good long-term solution)and that is topical meds like Promeris and Advantage, and in a mild case as it would seem you are seeing, this may be the way to proceed. Talk with your vet if condition doesn't improve in couple weeks, or certainly sooner if bald spots increase size/location.

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