For the past few weeks I have been giving Spanky a half slice of bread at bedtime to try to prevent him from throwing up phlegm in the morning on his empty stomach. I had been giving him Pepcid AC as the vet suggested, but that was not doing the job. Now I give him Pepcid, bread and a handful of kibble at bedtime. The additional bread has helped his stomach..... no more phlegm!
Last week he started shaking and rubbing his ears. We took him back to the vet, who said his ears needed cleaning, but were not infected. She sold me some Cerumene and the vet tech showed me how to clean them each week. The problem is that his ears look cleaner, but now he is shaking and rubbing his ears more than ever.
Do you think eating the bread could be causing this problem? If I need to stop giving him the bread, do you have any other suggestions about how to keep him from throwing up phlegm?
Thanks for any advice!
Yes, I guess we've....
learned this one the hard way.
I don't do the cutting
but the food is raw. and expensive. Bone is important, and I don't have a way to grind large bones, so I buy a food that is pre-made; all ground up bones, muscle meat, organ meat, and veggies. I like it because I feel like she is getting the proper nutrition. As soon as I can get a few $$ I will get a commercial meat grinder that will be able to handle small bones, like chicken wings, to help cut down the costs. I'll still buy it pre-made for the larger boned protein sources, (beef, lamb, venison).
Cathy
when she first came home
carbohydrates, turn to sugar that promote yeast
so yes it can cause yeast problems.
Carbs, turn to sugar, and then fat...
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Waiting....
I think I want to wait a few days before starting to introduce anything new to his system. Then, I think the yogurt will be a good idea.
bread definitely does mine in.
they only eat their food and frozen green beans, and sometimes an occasional vanilla yogurt.
HE will need at least a couple of good tablespoons..I would thin
I would give him a couple of good tablespoons full and try that to start..
you can even give him some during the day to help with it as well..on his other meals..
yogurt is great for stomachs of dogs of all breeds..
works good..
I would not use low fat either..
That's about the ...
only thing we have not tried. I'm sure he would like it. He loves everything! Thanks Pat!
Sounds like ...
you feed a larger amount of food each day than we do. Is that all for one bulldog? Spanky only gets a total of about 2 and a half cups of food for the whole day, including snacks. If he gets more than that he gains weight, which would be bad for his arthritis. He is a small frame bulldog and weighs about 50 lbs. You do make a good point about the splitting up the meals for more frequent feedings. Thanks!
give him some YOGURT..before bed..
not flavoured or anything just plain..
you will find a huge difference..
worked for all the dogs here that had that issue ever.
I do not think it is the bread..
YOU need something that coats the stomach..
so try the yogurt first and see
a bit of kibble is a great idea too..to add as well..
hope that works
What exactly do you mean by "raw?"
I have visions of cutting up a bloody chuck steak or chicken breast. Surely, that's not what you mean???? That sounds both messy and expensive.
Re: bread definitely does mine in.
It might be my imagination, but I did not give him bread last night and it seems like he might be a little bit better already.
OK, now I understand...
Also, Spanky is 8 years old and doesn't exercise as much (some arthritis), so he doesn't need as much food as your active pups. Thanks for the additional information!
my gabby used to puke all the time
when we got her from the rescue, we thought her bile puking was just a part of her being old...then we thought it was the food.. then we finally figured out it was the eating schedule... i have tried to just give biscuits or a snack late a night , but it wasn't enough.
we now feed our animals 4 times a day, yes - 4 times! but we split up the meals so we don't over feed, 1 cup kibble with mashed in wet food each time.
morning - 6am, afternoon - 12, dinner - 7pm, late night snack - 11pm , for dinner i give a 1/4 more cup of kibble while late snack, i give a 1/4 less...
now they haven't puked for a while.
its for 1 bully and 1 kelpie...each get this amount...
the cup we use , is not an actual cup, it's the biggest measuring container/scoop like thingy, that i think people use for baking, it used to be attached on a ring with the rest of measuring scoop thingy..sorry i dont know what you call it...it says a "cup" but when i put it in an actual coffee mug, it only comes up to 70% or so of a regular coffee cup... then i add about 1 tablespoon of the wet to go with it.
my kibby bully used to be 15 pounds over weight when we first got her from the rescue, but we got her down to 50 pounds in one year, luckily we have been able to maintain it with salmon/rice kibble and a little bit of the wet... we rarely give any treats,apples or mostly the freeze dried livers or chicken, ocassional peice grilled meat - like dime sized treats if that.
she does alot of running around now since she lost the weight, its like a totally different dog, i think this is what burns off any excess food - she loves fetch... whereas before , she would have to take a break and lie down, even if we just went one block down the street!
Kibby started getting this throwing up bile thing too... but luckily we figured it out with her older sister first before it got too bad. good luck!
Feeding schedule
Breakfast is about 7:00am
Dinner is 4:30pm (We feed him that early so he will poop before 10:30. He is 8 years old.)
Bedtime snack is 10:30
forgot to mention
Audrey was throwing up yellow bile in the am also. That also stopped when we switched to raw.
Cathy
when she first came home
i am with cathy on this one
ANY grain product sends Josie off the deep end, no matter how small the morsel. loose the bread and stick with a good quality protein or raw snack. cathy knows all about raw so maybe she will chime in here. NO GRAINS!! just my personal expereince with my Josie Louise. J & T
have you tried feeding him later?
so it's not so long on an empty stomach?
Cathy
when she first came home
What other food besides bread....
will absorb empty stomach acid? He throws up bile and phlegm in the morning if he doesn't eat bread, but now I am concerned that he may be allergic to it.
Thanks!
The more I think about it, the more I think it must be the bread. The problem is that I don't know what else to feed him before bedtime. I think I will try some chicken tonight. He enjoys the bread, but will also love to have some chicken!
bread definitely causes a reaction in my dog
within a few hours of eating even a tiny bit of it she starts scratching her face. She had a yeast ear infection that went away when we stopped feeding her grains entirely.
Cathy
when she first came home