I have had a bully since I was a little girl I love this breed. I want to breed them because after my last bulldog died of old age I was heartbroken he was my best friend, 5 months later I started looking for a new bully and it seemed as though every website or breeder I went to the quality of dog was **** ... My mom and I want to find good quality bulldog and show them, And if they show that they are in good health and good quality we wanted to breed. I really didnt think that everyone would be so mean sorry you think I have a puppymill but I really do LOVE Bulldogs and care about them . And by the way I cant have them in the house because my child is allergic to dogs so I found a way to still have them in my life by building a very nice kennel.

I know that everyone here has a more-than-average interest in their own dogs, as witness the time spent in discussion about their dogs and how they fit into daily life, SOooo some comments have been reactive. The fact that the poster listed her own email address shows that she was IMHO sincere about wanting some information. In such cases, if you don't want replies, you wouldn't invite further contact...right?!!!

So most of us don't keep 6 dogs in an in/outdoor kennel, at least where the weather is likely to drop below 50 or above 80 during the entire year. Its hard on this breed, with their short noses and short fur coats, to adjust to extreme temps.

It sounds like these bullies are fighting for "top dog" and they are also clamoring for more human attention which may...may...translate into 'pick me MOM as your favorite and the other dogs will recognize my higher status'. The only answer I could come up with, unscientific for sure, is that the owner needs to be a firm "top dog" personality to minimize the infighting for that ranking.

Wow it seems as though everyone on this site is rude and bitter. I DONT NOT HAVE A PUPPYMILL! Pretty sure if it was a puppymill I wouldnt give a **** if my dogs got in fights, but no I do care because I love them and I want them to be able to play and have a good life. If anyone would like they can come see my kennel my dogs are happy and loved. My dogs live about 10 steps from my home I spend all day with the dogs the only time I am not there is at night. Maybe I give them to much attention because that is when they fight. Sorry I asked the question just thought someone might of had a solution.

ignorance
plain and simple


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It is hard for me to believe that anyone with a bulldog could stand to leave him in an inside/outside kennel instead of having him live in the house. Bulldogs are called "companion dogs" for a reason.

Yes, I think this question is really strange.

um, no, i thought so too.... hmmmmmm

~Kellie and Chloe~

it's called the truth and some folks just can't handle it


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now being used to breed??

wow, pat on the back for you to be doing this.

any "kenneling" operation is a sad situation for dogs period


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not sure why you wouldn't spay and neuter???? Makes absolutely no sense when you do the health research


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what I don't like even more, is people that don't even have enough respect for their own opinions that they won't post it on an open forum.

Lynn King CPDT

I also love the breed, that's why I don't breed. I leave that up to those that have researched their pup's lines, that have proven their pups/dogs are worthy of breeding and have put far more time/consideration into breeding then just buying a bunch of pups throwing them all together and thinking everything is going to be hunkydory. You can't know much about dogs if you thought putting 6 intact dogs together, left to their own devices, without much human guidance aren't going to fight.

I wish your dogs and their futures a lot of luck

Lynn King CPDT

whats sad about all this is that I have got about ten emails say how rude everyone is and how they would like to help if I have any questions.

you are more than welcome to come and check it out

I just thought it was a simple question with a simple anwser... Didnt think I had to put every detail. When my dogs are out I am outside with them playing with them. Actually $12,000 dosent seem like very much to spend on a animal. My kennel cost over 50,000 and only has 8 dog kennels(not a puppymill with 40 kennels and just any old bulldog. By the way I saved 2 bulldogs that were abused and at a puppymill a place that has 50 kennels.

people just don't learn


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No **** thats why I put....ECT dont be so rude. Why would I put my dogs history onn here I dont know you I actually know all about my dogs. You are trying to find any little thing to pick at me and be a ASS. I just asked a question.

the only reason anyone would have 6 breeding dogs, all the same age, no proven show history, living in kennels, is to make money. My guess is, you know nothing of their parents/grandparents-health, temperament or confirmation. Most people that are interested in showing, start out with one, hope to succeed and then make a decision on breeding. "Love the breed" who are you trying to bull****.

Lynn King CPDT

Am i the only one who thinks this?

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...................????

I do understand that you may love these dogs. I actually have more concern about your allergic child. I love cats, but have a horrible allergy to them. If my parents had decided to keep 6 cats, even in a kennel outside of the house, I'm afraid I would have been a little jealous. When our president's children asked for a dog, he was very careful to choose a dog that his child would not cause medical problems for her. Childhood allergies are serious.

which made no mention of human contact. Just 6 bulldogs, kenneled or penned. Running in a pack in a huge outdoor area. And future breeding prospects. No mention of showing them, their health, bloodlines, experience, just a very unusual situation from what the show breeders here describe. 6 bulldogs of the quality that would be worthy of breeding is a HUGE financial investment and a lot of people have difficulty understanding spending upwards of $12,000 for animals and then keeping them in the conditions you described in your original post. Maybe try to start over. A little introduction. A little background. You are asking questions of people who have and do on a regular basis save bulldogs from horrendous neglect and abuse, from clueless people who are financially motivated to reproduce them with little regard to bettering the breed or the welfare of the dogs. From your brief post your 'profile' fit the scenario of the puppymill breeders they have had to save dogs from.

Cathy
when she first came home

rescue and help with the rescue effort


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it's not just hip and eye issues! Wow, you really need to do your homework.
What about temperment? Where did your bitches and stud dogs come from, what are their history? If you are wanting to breed to better the bulldog breed you really should know a bit more than what you are stating on this forum.


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their quality of life should be the main concern. If you have an allergic child and have to keep dogs outside that is purely selfish. That's the only way you can keep them in your life?

I am sorry but I work in rescue and see far too many dogs that are bred when there a many needing homes. We don't need any more breeders. And if you breed then RESCUE. Our director breeds once in a while but she does far more rescue than breeding.

Sorry but there are millions of dogs euthanized each year and backyard breeders just are contributing.


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I am new to showing and have 2 puppies. A 6 month old male and a 4 month old female for my son. In addition we have 2 that are Pets. By the time we Groom and train all 4 it's a full time job. Conformation classes 1 night a week for the show dogs and obedience classes one night for the other 2. Then there is the practice at home for all four which occurs the other 5 nights a week. This does take into account the trips to the vet and regular play and socialization that MUST occur for a healthy well balanced Bully. I promised myself and my breeders that I was going to give these dogs the best home possible and it can be over whelming. They want and need to be right where we are 24/7. They have a nice room with their crates for bedtime but the rest of the time they are with someone. If we are gone they go to grandmas or with us. I would never think to leave them out where they can run and play unsupervised because of all the things that can and will happen to these sweet dogs. I have heard horrible stories about Bullies getting into fights for no apparent reason resulting in one or both having to be put to sleep. Am I willing to risk that with my kids?? Absolutely NOT. Supervision is essential and separation for those who can't or won't get along mandatory.

Well the thing is I dont need to make money on them I have enough TRUST ME.... You are very rude I asked a simple question I know alot about this breed and I have never had any prolbems with aggression excpt with these pups so I just wondered if anyone else has had this prolbem. You shouldnt tell someone you dont know that they need to get a job and make a HONEST ETHICAL living when you know nothing about them YOU DONT KNOW ME. I do this as a hobby because I LOVE BULLDOGS not because I want to make a quick buck.

I want to show them and breed them if they are good quality..... If they are not healthy or have somthing like hip issues or eye issues...... I wouldnt breed them and would spay or neuter them.

I dont really understand how you think they dont have much human contactI am at the kennel all day long and I have three kids 1 is allergic to dogs so that is why they cannot be in the home if she wasnt allergic I would have them all in my home and YES they would all cuddle in my bed because there nothing better than sleeping holding your best friend and listining to him or her snore all night long that is the best... The other 2 girls are out at the kennel before and after school to play with all the dogs. My dogs get ALOT of attention maybe to much. By the way I do have a special bond with every dog. Yes I live on a farm but my dogs are not treated like farm animals I feed them taste of the wild pacific salmon I feed them the reccomended amount they need according to age and weight. I keep my kennel at 70 degrees in the winter and 68 in the summer I know that bulldogs have a hard time in the heat. Each one of my dogs has there own cot with cozy blankets to snuggle in. And each dog has at least 2 toys in there pen to play with.

without sounding harsh, my dear you dont need to breed these dogs if you are asking these kinds of questions. you are resorting to puppymill breeding and that is deplorable. you obviously know nothing of the breed and have no business putting these dogs lives in danger. Your question shows your true ignorance of dog behavior as well as a total lack of any morals or ethics to harbor a puppymill. Dogs are not herd animals, you do not breed them just to make a buck, these dogs are meant to be part of a family as PETS, not just an easy money making machine at the cost of a dogs life. go find a job, find two jobs, and make and HONEST, ETHICAL living, but dont do it at these poor dog's expense. J & T

You have too many dogs, or at least too many unaltered adult dogs and I agree with Lynn completely, they have gone to "pack mentality" and are fighting for supremacy which will continue until one or more dogs is seriously injured (blinded or worse) and do you want these dogs then raising pups with that type of unharnessed aggression?

why would you get 6 bulldogs and leave them with only contact with other dogs all day? And then act surprised when they start acting like wild animals instead of tame housepets? How are you going to take care of a female right after she's delivered by c-section, and also her newborn puppies, if you don't form a close bond with her? Bulldogs are NOT FARM ANIMALS. They are not like chickens you can throw some food to then go collect their offspring.

Cathy
when she first came home

dogs in our HOME. 6 are female bulldogs that range in age from 12yrs to 11 months. One is a 17y/o Bichon Frise. 1 intact male bulldog lives with us full time. 2 intact males visit quite often for weeks at a time. We do NOT have aggression problems unless our older Bichon inadvertently gets stepped on. She may then growl at the offender.

I think the difference between our situations is that these dogs are our FAMILY MEMBERS and are treated as such. Not a profit maker. I cannot imagine leaving any of my children (canine or human)in the atmosphere that you have described. Where is the HUMAN socialization? How can you expect these dogs to behave in any other way? How much effort and training are you putting into raising them to be well socialized members of society?

Quite frankly I think you need training in humanity more than these dogs need behavior modifications.

I do appologize for ranting, but quite frankly I think these types of messages give the rest of us multiple dog owners a bad rap.

Why do you want to breed?




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the fighting between 6 intact dogs. Sounds like they live outside of your home, if so, they growing up without human rules and they are living like dogs. I think you need to re-adjust your expectations.

I feel bad for these dogs, appears you are in the process of starting your own puppymill.

Lynn King CPDT