When we purchased our english bull we were told by the breeder that we should not give him the bordetella vaccination and that we take all responsibility for any respitory illness or pneumonia that may be caused by the vaccination. Our bully is 16 months old now and he has not been vaccinated and I would like to take him to obedience training but I have been told by vets that he needs bordetella if he is going to be around other dogs. Other than the obedience training and going to the vet he stays home and walks only in our culdesac. I don't know what to do! I want him to be protected, but I'm scared of the side affects. Has anyone else heard this from their breeder?
I dont give the vaccine any more
you have to do what is best for your dog.
Vicky,
Bosco, Bella, Breve' & Holly
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I dont give the vaccine any more
you have to do what is best for your dog.
Vicky,
Bosco, Bella, Breve' & Holly
www.LangagerBulldogs.com
PHOTOS ARE PROPERTY OF LANGAGER BULLDOGS, YOU MUST HAVE WRITTEN PERMISSION FOR ANY USE OF THESE PHOTOS FROM LANGAGERBULLDOG.
Thank you!
I'm so glad you said that - he is over due for the DHPP so we were considering both this and the Bordetella shot at the same time. It sounds like you were recommend we space them a week or two between shots. Thanks!
Thank you!
I'm so glad you said that - he is over due for the DHPP so we were considering both this and the Bordetella shot at the same time. It sounds like you were recommend we space them a week or two between shots. Thanks!
Re: Advice on Bordetella causing Illness
If you are planning to have your dog around a lot of other dogs your dog needs to be vaccinated. There is also an intra nasal bordetella, in the nose, rather then the shot. I have done both and prefer the intra nasal. My vets also recommend the intra nasal. I know some people prefer the injection but I choose to do it through the nose. If you plan to board your dog or show your dog it is very important that the dog is vaccinated.
It is also very important to make sure your dog is healthy before doing any vaccinations. You dont want to vaccinate a sick dog. I am not sure if your dog has had his other vaccinations, DHPPC, and rabies, but the other thing is I do not give all vaccinations on the same day. I do one series, then wait a couple of weeks, then do another and wait and so on. I do not like to do too much at once.
I hope this information helps you.
Re: Advice on Bordetella causing Illness
If you are planning to have your dog around a lot of other dogs your dog needs to be vaccinated. There is also an intra nasal bordetella, in the nose, rather then the shot. I have done both and prefer the intra nasal. My vets also recommend the intra nasal. I know some people prefer the injection but I choose to do it through the nose. If you plan to board your dog or show your dog it is very important that the dog is vaccinated.
It is also very important to make sure your dog is healthy before doing any vaccinations. You dont want to vaccinate a sick dog. I am not sure if your dog has had his other vaccinations, DHPPC, and rabies, but the other thing is I do not give all vaccinations on the same day. I do one series, then wait a couple of weeks, then do another and wait and so on. I do not like to do too much at once.
I hope this information helps you.
I have never had a dog react to the Bordatella vaccine
But I have never done the intra-nasal, so wouldn't be able to comment on that particular one. I had a beagle almost die from kennel cough that quickly became pneumonia. Within a day he was hospitalized and it took months to recover. I would get the vaccine before I took mine anywhere in public, you just never know what other animals carry that your guys can get sick from.
Amy, Sophia and Isabella
I have never had a dog react to the Bordatella vaccine
But I have never done the intra-nasal, so wouldn't be able to comment on that particular one. I had a beagle almost die from kennel cough that quickly became pneumonia. Within a day he was hospitalized and it took months to recover. I would get the vaccine before I took mine anywhere in public, you just never know what other animals carry that your guys can get sick from.
Amy, Sophia and Isabella
my dogs
My first dog I didn't vaccinate and she went to a doggy daycare and got kennel cough. She was so sick, couldn't keep food down nor her medication. I had to take her to the vet daily for an injection of antibiotics... not cheap and it was scary. She was only 4 months old. Since that experience I have been vaccinating with no problems. It's generally not something I give at an early age unless my dogs are out around others. Where we have been going to handling classes at a young age, the pups did get it early. I contine to give it through out show season and we've not had any issues.
Shelley - Stella, Sophie N Angel Mocha
my dogs
My first dog I didn't vaccinate and she went to a doggy daycare and got kennel cough. She was so sick, couldn't keep food down nor her medication. I had to take her to the vet daily for an injection of antibiotics... not cheap and it was scary. She was only 4 months old. Since that experience I have been vaccinating with no problems. It's generally not something I give at an early age unless my dogs are out around others. Where we have been going to handling classes at a young age, the pups did get it early. I contine to give it through out show season and we've not had any issues.
Shelley - Stella, Sophie N Angel Mocha
Toby had the bordetella shot at around 3 months if I remembered
He was fine. But he did develop flu like symptoms months later. I don't think they are related.
I am glad he got the shot though. He licks everything and likes to hang out with other dogs.
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Toby had the bordetella shot at around 3 months if I remembered
He was fine. But he did develop flu like symptoms months later. I don't think they are related.
I am glad he got the shot though. He licks everything and likes to hang out with other dogs.
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Re: Thank you!
I prefer to wait a couple of weeks in between shots. I am sure there are others that do them all together but if by some strange coincidence there is a reaction and you give more then one you will not know which one is causing the reaction. Plus it is easier on the dogs, so I would definitely wait. Makes for more visits but I would rather be safe then sorry. And I also usually hang around about an hour after the vaccine is given IN CASE there is a reaction. That way I am already there.
Re: Thank you!
I prefer to wait a couple of weeks in between shots. I am sure there are others that do them all together but if by some strange coincidence there is a reaction and you give more then one you will not know which one is causing the reaction. Plus it is easier on the dogs, so I would definitely wait. Makes for more visits but I would rather be safe then sorry. And I also usually hang around about an hour after the vaccine is given IN CASE there is a reaction. That way I am already there.
Jack got very sick shortly after getting nasal bordatella
Coughing, vomiting, lethargic...scared the crap out of me. It took several weeks for him to recover. I can't say 100% that it was caused by the bordatella vaccination, but I'm convinced enough that I have not done bordatella again on him or any of my other dogs. I would do it if I had to for boarding or whatever, but I won't if I don't have to.
Jack got very sick shortly after getting nasal bordatella
Coughing, vomiting, lethargic...scared the crap out of me. It took several weeks for him to recover. I can't say 100% that it was caused by the bordatella vaccination, but I'm convinced enough that I have not done bordatella again on him or any of my other dogs. I would do it if I had to for boarding or whatever, but I won't if I don't have to.
I don't think it's exactly irrational
But, I think the risk is fairly low. It's possible for a dog to have a reaction to any of the vaccines and I don't imagine the breeder warned you against the other vaccines so I don't know why they have such a strong aversion to the borderella. I know someone who lost a dog from a bad reaction to a rabies shot. I would discuss any possible side effects with your Vet.
I don't think it's exactly irrational
But, I think the risk is fairly low. It's possible for a dog to have a reaction to any of the vaccines and I don't imagine the breeder warned you against the other vaccines so I don't know why they have such a strong aversion to the borderella. I know someone who lost a dog from a bad reaction to a rabies shot. I would discuss any possible side effects with your Vet.
Is bordetella worth the risk of pneumonia?
Vicky - that begs this question to be asked. In your experience, was it work the dogs getting pneumonia to protect against (some strains) of kennel cough?
Is bordetella worth the risk of pneumonia?
Vicky - that begs this question to be asked. In your experience, was it work the dogs getting pneumonia to protect against (some strains) of kennel cough?
I have had dogs get pneumonia from both the
injection and nasal vaccine.
If your dog gets sick you need to use a strong vaccine, more then clavamox but something like baytril or zithromax right away.
Best of luck with your choice
Vicky,
Bosco, Bella, Breve' & Holly
www.LangagerBulldogs.com
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A few tidbits of info re bordatella (kennel cough)
is that its commonly spread via saliva from other dogs which means sneezing, coughing, licking the grass where another dog has sniffed and possibly licked, etc. so unless your dog never leaves your own yard (not likely) there is reason to consider vaccinating for this (I don't do my old dogs but I used to do my young dog that went to parks/competitive events just those years that he did). The vaccine can be given by injection but most vets do the nasal, quicker and cheaper to administer. The "protection" it provides lasts about six months so if you take your dog out to public places where other dogs are, you may need to give it 2xyr, especially since several kennel operations require the dog to have it that often to lessen the chance of spreading kennel cough to all the many dogs there.
The vaccine covers a good portion of the varieties of kennel cough but not all, so even with the vaccine not every dog will be protected and yours can still develop KC. Its not exactly like a human flu but thinking in those terms of new varieties or strains coming every year or two, there are similarities. And a few dogs will develop a slight nasal drip as their body builds the antibodies for KC after receiving the vaccination, but it will be mild in comparison to the full case of KC, which can be life-threatening, scary as he!! and costly to treat.
Please read up about Kennel Cough, its symptoms and general treatment, so you will know what signs to look for if your own dog is "not doing well". I think your breeder was exaggerating the likelihood of your young dog getting sick from vaccinating.
I have had dogs get pneumonia from both the
injection and nasal vaccine.
If your dog gets sick you need to use a strong vaccine, more then clavamox but something like baytril or zithromax right away.
Best of luck with your choice
Vicky,
Bosco, Bella, Breve' & Holly
www.LangagerBulldogs.com
PHOTOS ARE PROPERTY OF LANGAGER BULLDOGS, YOU MUST HAVE WRITTEN PERMISSION FOR ANY USE OF THESE PHOTOS FROM LANGAGERBULLDOG.
A few tidbits of info re bordatella (kennel cough)
is that its commonly spread via saliva from other dogs which means sneezing, coughing, licking the grass where another dog has sniffed and possibly licked, etc. so unless your dog never leaves your own yard (not likely) there is reason to consider vaccinating for this (I don't do my old dogs but I used to do my young dog that went to parks/competitive events just those years that he did). The vaccine can be given by injection but most vets do the nasal, quicker and cheaper to administer. The "protection" it provides lasts about six months so if you take your dog out to public places where other dogs are, you may need to give it 2xyr, especially since several kennel operations require the dog to have it that often to lessen the chance of spreading kennel cough to all the many dogs there.
The vaccine covers a good portion of the varieties of kennel cough but not all, so even with the vaccine not every dog will be protected and yours can still develop KC. Its not exactly like a human flu but thinking in those terms of new varieties or strains coming every year or two, there are similarities. And a few dogs will develop a slight nasal drip as their body builds the antibodies for KC after receiving the vaccination, but it will be mild in comparison to the full case of KC, which can be life-threatening, scary as he!! and costly to treat.
Please read up about Kennel Cough, its symptoms and general treatment, so you will know what signs to look for if your own dog is "not doing well". I think your breeder was exaggerating the likelihood of your young dog getting sick from vaccinating.
Is it an irrational Fear?
Thank you so much for the quick response. It really helps to hear from others who are experienced! Have you ever heard of bulldogs have a reaction to bordetella or is this an irrational fear that I have?
Is it an irrational Fear?
Thank you so much for the quick response. It really helps to hear from others who are experienced! Have you ever heard of bulldogs have a reaction to bordetella or is this an irrational fear that I have?
None of my dogs have had a reaction
If he is going to be around a lot of other dogs, I think he needs the vaccine.
None of my dogs have had a reaction
If he is going to be around a lot of other dogs, I think he needs the vaccine.